Best home defense shotgun ?

Oliveoil said:
A 20 year old 870
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Next to an aggressively barking dog in a darkened house the 870 Wingmaster would be a huge deterrent.
Go to your basement and turn off the lights.
Place a heavy dose of bad guy meds in the mage and rack that action and listen to what I am talking about.
ok, disclaimer make sure the gun is on safe and your familiar with it before doing what I mentioned.
Bad guy is either going to keep coming for something or going to wet his panties as he runs out the door.
Nothing sounds as mean as a pump action being racked in the dark, well maybe Thor being awoken from his slumber...
They both make distinct sounds !!

Rob
 
It goes without saying that you should make entering your home unbidden as difficult and noisy as is practical. If all it takes is a swift kick or breaking some glass to gain entry, you're doing it wrong.

And these days there is little excuse to not have a camera system situated so that you can safely assess the threat instead of blundering around and finding it the hard way.
 
madashell said:
Shoot-Shovel-Shut up is so viable where I live it's no joke.

Wanna test the "theory" ?

There are others on here know exactly what I'm talking about. You appear not to have grown up around hardened men who take no #### and do what needs to be done. Worrying about the police/law in such situations is an after thought at best.
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LOL!

I've heard that up north at off grid homes and secluded it'll be shoot, drag and let the coyotes take care of the rest. It's amazing how fast the coyotes can get rid of a deer carcass and gut pile.
 
mustang979 said:
I feel like this logic is flawed... leaving a box mag loaded (remember, speed is key) will distort the sheels and cause lots of stoppages and feed issues. If you wait until there is an intruder to load the mag, you've lost all advantages of the box mag and are not any faster then any other tube fed shotgun. I'll stick to my M4 Double tapping 00buck FTW
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I just did a little reading on this issue and it appears that warpage is on the first shell only if left inserted against a closed bolt. Some say warpage of the shells in a box mag not inserted is a myth due to any pressure exerted is on the brass not the hull. There's some anecdotal stories of shells not feeding at all after being left in a box mag and many stories saying that is BS and they've never had a problem. Not too different from any "what do you think" type question where there is no objective testing.

With that in mind, using a box mag loaded with brass hulled shells should would be the fastest and easiest to load without shell deformation assuming the shotgun is stored legally in a safe together with but apart from a loaded magazine.
 
My 2 cents. I have a short double barrel coach gun I use for CAS, made by Cimmaron. Break action, single trigger; each time you pull the trigger one barrel unloads. Easy to load and use in the heat of the moment. Easy to maneuver in the confines of indoors.
 
I was looking at an M4 only today, very nice shotgun for sure. I do have misgivings about a semi auto not handling any type of shell you can shove into it, say an expedient target load for 3 gun. OTOH I also have misgivings about my 870 Express model Defender, which is itself a little on the crappy side; the 870s sure ain't what they used to be .
 
MIRAMICHIER said:
H&R single 10Ga oo buck only need one shot.
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Fudd logic at its' most myopic.

Same logic as Mayor Torys' declaration, "I don't know why anyone living in Toronto needs a handgun."

My "need(s)" is my business, and yours are yours.

Only in collective socialism will "our needs" be subject to collective approval.

Wake up.
 
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Jaylegger said:
I just did a little reading on this issue and it appears that warpage is on the first shell only if left inserted against a closed bolt. Some say warpage of the shells in a box mag not inserted is a myth due to any pressure exerted is on the brass not the hull. There's some anecdotal stories of shells not feeding at all after being left in a box mag and many stories saying that is BS and they've never had a problem. Not too different from any "what do you think" type question where there is no objective testing.

With that in mind, using a box mag loaded with brass hulled shells should would be the fastest and easiest to load without shell deformation assuming the shotgun is stored legally in a safe together with but apart from a loaded magazine.
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I can safely say I’ve noticed no shell deformation in loaded 12g mags left loaded for over a year, low and high brass birdshot and 00buck.
 
Shell deformation is probably only a serious issue if you're talking about stiffly sprung 8+ round SAIGA mags left loaded in the trunk of a car in Arizona summer heat, or something.
 
Yes, it is amazing. Wolves too.

The ROC said:
LOL!

I've heard that up north at off grid homes and secluded it'll be shoot, drag and let the coyotes take care of the rest. It's amazing how fast the coyotes can get rid of a deer carcass and gut pile.
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Jmcc said:
My preference is a 9 iron. nice and short for in close and its only restricted on the greens

assuming that my guns are safely stores as per reg, id need to

1) find my keys
2) get my butt downstairs to the basement where the safe is (passing the front door on the way)
3) unlock the safe in the dark (cuz i wouldn't want the bad guy to know where i am)
4) go through 25 trigger lock keys to find the right one (still in the dark)
5) unlock the trigger
6) unlock my ammo (yep, still in the dark)
7) find the right ammo
8) load the firearm (i might turn the lights on now)

They bad guy has taken my stuff and pawned my wife's wedding ring by now....
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Hey the 9 iron worked ....100 million for Tigers swedish underwear model wife.

Gotta love the zero feedback liberal response.
 
best gun is one that is ready. hard to quickly load a shotgun under stress. IIRC, you cant keep a loaded gun in the safe w/in city limits, but you can keep loaded mags.
 
As I'm rural, I am more concerned about wildlife problems than human, but I suppose human problems can happen anywhere. My solution for a long time was a pump action Mossberg and a .22. The problem with both of them is that they were tube fed, and slow to load compared to a detach box magazine. I would have a few rounds of slugs, buckshot and birdshot handy, depending on what size the animal was. But a few times it took too long to get into action and I replaced it with a Derya mag fed.

Surfire light on the front, a mag each of birdshot, 00 and slugs so you make your choice and you are loaded and ready in a moment. I never thought lasers were of much use- more gimmick than anything, but I can see Ganderites point and might get one.

Frankly, if I was mostly interested in human intruders I might choose one of my Beretta CX4 carbines. Slap a flashlight (and laser if you like) on the front, and a red dot on top and you have a very easy to control and accurate weapon that loads with 10 rounds instantly.
 
Given our safe storage laws where the shotgun must be stored unloaded, trigger locked and ammunition stored separately, or together without a trigger lock in a safe. The choice of best or worst is pretty much immaterial.

Most of the gun media is from the states where it is legal to have a shotgun loaded. Loaded an eight round pump action shotgun would be a good home defense choice. Here complying with our safe storage laws less so.
 
Jmcc said:
My preference is a 9 iron. nice and short for in close and its only restricted on the greens

assuming that my guns are safely stores as per reg, id need to

1) find my keys
2) get my butt downstairs to the basement where the safe is (passing the front door on the way)
3) unlock the safe in the dark (cuz i wouldn't want the bad guy to know where i am)
4) go through 25 trigger lock keys to find the right one (still in the dark)
5) unlock the trigger
6) unlock my ammo (yep, still in the dark)
7) find the right ammo
8) load the firearm (i might turn the lights on now)

They bad guy has taken my stuff and pawned my wife's wedding ring by now....
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If only there was such a thing as combination locks...hmmm. Or maybe even a biometric wall lock for shotguns that would provide quick and easy access, yet still comply with Canadian storage laws...https://www.hornady.com/security/rapid-safes/shotgun-wall-lock
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