Black Creek Labs AR180 based rifle SVR2 Siberian approved for Non restricted FRT

DT741 said:
The thing is… I’m not a firearm manufacturer nor do I pretend to be one on Full Moon. But I have what I consider, good to very good experience with AR "style kinda look a like" platform under abusive conditions… and I also have experience with 2 NEA product kabooming for reasons I’ve never seen. Cracked bolt carrier on a 500 rounds rifle ?!? How do you manage that one ?

And lets spare the whole BCL/NEA 102 platform, how many shot properly without some advanced basement gunsmithing ? Its like they were changing specs every rifle they produced at some point. How do you go from Version 1 to Version 7 in less than 2 years ?! That’s a lot of improvements in a short amount of time, maybe the product wasn’t ready, maybe someone wanted to cash in before quality models came out like the Stag10, who basically made the NEA102 vanish and drop significantly on the used market. It also tells a lot about the real value of said "quality made in canada" product.

Is it their "military contract" ?
https://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/t...r-weapons-found-in-anti-pkk-operations-134975


BCL may have improved since then, but there are plenty other companies to buy from whom I’ve never heard stories such as those we’ve all read, seen and lived with NEA/BCL products.

But !

For those who have interest in the rifle, I hope I am absolutely 100% wrong about it. Should this rifle be a complete success, I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong and maybe save some pesos to own one.
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Can't argue with you on that one.

I owned one of the BCL 102 rifles. One of the later ones. The Stag 10 like you said, made it completely obsolete.

That being said, I have to add a few things here. There was an upgrade package they sent out with a new extractor, ejector and gas rings. I put in the rings and extractor but kept the original ejector in. It cycled everything. Including steel cased surplus ammo. No reliability issues. A bit over gassed maybe? But worked great. Accuracy was even good on mine too. You had to load hot though for the 18.5" 1:10 twist barrel. But once you did, it shot well. Much better than 1 moa.

I even really liked the looks of that rifle. I just thought it was great looking. A few too many wings on it (BCL symbol) but looked fairly cool. Had some ambi controls seen in higher end rifles, costing much more.

The negative was the materials like Bartok5 stated. They won't tell you the grade of aluminum and just say it's "Aircraft grade". It's 6061 which is softer than 7075. But... They also only cerekoted it. Not anodized. So my concern would have been wearing through the cerekote and having soft aluminum underneath. The cerekote looked to be wearing off fairly quick near the charging handle area.

Oh and the stock trigger was F##@ing atrocious.

That being said, for a commercial grade AR308, it was kind of cool. The Stag10 blew it away though. The Stag10 was awesome. Nostalgia...

These Badger rifles appear to have addressed two of those issues. The first being the trigger. Good for them. Their trigger really sucked. The second being the soft aluminum and only cerekoting. Looks like they anodize now and then cerekote. Still it looks to be 6061 aluminum, but that's fine if it's treated and cerekoted.

might actually be a decent rifle. I'm not a fan of the AR180 designs generally. But could consider giving one of these a try maybe. But not the first ones out the door, that's for sure. Even with the BCL 102 I waited until the later generations.
 
Taking a look at the recent photos of the SRV2 Siberian skunky polar bear or whatever..

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...uot-Non-Restricted-Coming-Soon?highlight=srv2

It does remind me a bit of the BCL 102 I used to own. Safety and bolt release look like the same manufacturing. The tan colour Cerekote is also the same. It's a good thing it comes with a decent looking folding stock. The BCL 102 was a pain to get a decent stock for (The one that came with it sucked). I went with a SOPMOD and I can tell you that FDE doesn't match. Coyote was the closest and it's darker. Just a heads up if you're colour matching.

Handguard looks like the love child of a Badger Ordnance stabilizer and the Midwest Industries handguard. The connection system of the handguard to the upper looks to be copied from the MI. Not bad.

Couple things I can see right off the bat for "Gen 2" . No rear of the receiver quick release sling point? A lot of us like single point for carbine.

Should just come with an enhanced trigger guard. Looks like AR so easy to change. But would be nice if right out of the box.

Overall, I kind of like it though. Would like to see how they shoot. But still have my concerns like others here regarding there being a few gens before it's decent.

That being said, I'll likely hold out for a non restricted CZ Bren 2 MS. :d Although I think in this case Restricted would definitely be preferred!!!

https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...22-September-9-10-amp-11/page2?highlight=srv2

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Black Creek Labs SRV2 Siberian, TRX Bronco and the PX19 Foxbat Taccom 2022 interview

Affordable Optics and Rifle Reviews said:
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According to the interview, the Siberian has a proprietary hand guard that will be available in multiple lengths, has steel lined QD points , and uses a Zhukov stock attached by adapter to a 1913 rail, which means any other 1913 to buffer tube or 1913 stock should work as well.
 
Can’t be any worst than all the other crap that currently on the the market.

I’d prefer the DI version with the rear CH though.
 
Ustauk said:
Black Creek Labs SRV2 Siberian, TRX Bronco and the PX19 Foxbat Taccom 2022 interview



According to the interview, the Siberian has a proprietary hand guard that will be available in multiple lengths, has steel lined QD points , and uses a Zhukov stock attached by adapter to a 1913 rail, which means any other 1913 to buffer tube or 1913 stock should work as well.
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Good video, the rifle looks promising, especially if it’s sub $2K
 
Ustauk said:
Black Creek Labs SRV2 Siberian, TRX Bronco and the PX19 Foxbat Taccom 2022 interview



According to the interview, the Siberian has a proprietary hand guard that will be available in multiple lengths, has steel lined QD points , and uses a Zhukov stock attached by adapter to a 1913 rail, which means any other 1913 to buffer tube or 1913 stock should work as well.
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The video mentioned there will be 3 versions of the SVR2, do we know what the others will be?
 
The steel insert QD mounts on the SRV2's handguard echo those of the new, but unfortunately prohibited Sig MCX Spear LT's back of lower. Good on BCL for noting the QD mount wear on the aluminum only mounts on the prior Gen MCX Vertis and similar firearms and implementing the same solution as a major firearms manufacturer!
 
When I messaged the BCL PR person here in on CGN asking about the Siberian's piston and gas block, they passed along to get following a answer from BCL's mechanical designer:

BCL's Mechanical Designer said:
"The SRV2 Siberian is being tested with a mid length gas system involving a multi-piece piston. The gas block will be retained to minimize any chances of movement during sustained fire."
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A multi-piece system is what gave the original AR180 and the newer Sterling R18MK2 enough piston flexibility to avoid breakages. A secured gas block means it won't rotate off true and stress the piston. It's good to see both in the Siberian, and hopefully this will result in a durable, dependable firearm!
 
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TACCOM 2022: BCL - BlackCreek's NEW SRV2 Semi Auto, TRX Rifles, and PX19 Pistol

We sat down with a very busy Rob from Black Creek Labs to talk about all the new rifles they have on the go including their TRX line of bolt action rifles, the PX19 Foxbat Pistol receiver, and the SRV2 Siberian, BCL's new entry into the semi auto market!



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https://youtu.be/8Pw3XDa5eE0
 
I had one of the last BCL102s before everything went sideways in Ottawa - if the Siberian is as well-put-together and functions as well as that BCL102 did, I'll probably buy one. Looking forward to initial user feedback.
 
CobraGT said:
I had one of the last BCL102s before everything went sideways in Ottawa - if the Siberian is as well-put-together and functions as well as that BCL102 did, I'll probably buy one. Looking forward to initial user feedback.
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Its a shame how short lived the BCL102 mk7 was, turns out when BCL stopped trying to force their proprietary in house #### they actually make a decent rifle.
 
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