Brand New to Canada: SG-12 "SPAS"

Range Report 2: Electric Boogaloo

Getting ready, kids. Gather around. I have a story to tell you!

The trip to the range was short. As I got the gear inside, and the shotgun uncased, I sensed the eyes of others at the range fall squarely on the firearm sitting on the bench.

"Is that a SPAS-12?!" Asked the RSO.

His expression dropped when I told him it was a Turkish semiautomatic cosplaying as a SPAS-12.

A frown fell upon his brow when I told him the issues I'd experienced.

Now that I've set the scene, let us being.

This gun does not work. In its factory configuration, with all the OEM parts in it, it still double feeds, fails to feed, and locks open with ammo in the magazine.

Ammo used was Score buck and slugs, as well as Federal blue box 1 oz 1650 FPS slugs.
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The spontaneous disassembly also continues.

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This is the magazine tube spring retainer after only less than 10 shots of interrupted buck and slugs.

Since the gun was kind enough to take itself apart, I went ahead and tested the gun without the spring retainer and replaced the OEM spring with an S&J spring trimmed to 1.5x the length of the magtube plus extension.

The doublefeeds and failure to feed continued.

A different orange plastic follower was used instead of the OEM follower. Same issues.

The OEM follower and spring were used without the spring retainer. Same issues, and now shells were binding in the magtube.

Round count is around 300 shells of high brass 1500+ FPS buck and slugs.

I did have two uninterrupted strings of fire where all 6 or 7 shells fired, ejected, fed, and the gun locked open.

And the heatshield screws are loose again by the way...

This gun gets one. More. Chance.
 
Range Report 2: Electric Boogaloo

Getting ready, kids. Gather around. I have a story to tell you!

The trip to the range was short. As I got the gear inside, and the shotgun uncased, I sensed the eyes of others at the range fall squarely on the firearm sitting on the bench.

"Is that a SPAS-12?!" Asked the RSO.

His expression dropped when I told him it was a Turkish semiautomatic cosplaying as a SPAS-12.

A frown fell upon his brow when I told him the issues I'd experienced.

Now that I've set the scene, let us being.

This gun does not work. In its factory configuration, with all the OEM parts in it, it still double feeds, fails to feed, and locks open with ammo in the magazine.

Ammo used was Score buck and slugs, as well as Federal blue box 1 oz 1650 FPS slugs.
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The spontaneous disassembly also continues.

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This is the magazine tube spring retainer after only less than 10 shots of interrupted buck and slugs.

Since the gun was kind enough to take itself apart, I went ahead and tested the gun without the spring retainer and replaced the OEM spring with an S&J spring trimmed to 1.5x the length of the magtube plus extension.

The doublefeeds and failure to feed continued.

A different orange plastic follower was used instead of the OEM follower. Same issues.

The OEM follower and spring were used without the spring retainer. Same issues, and now shells were binding in the magtube.

Round count is around 300 shells of high brass 1500+ FPS buck and slugs.

I did have two uninterrupted strings of fire where all 6 or 7 shells fired, ejected, fed, and the gun locked open.

And the heatshield screws are loose again by the way...

This gun gets one. More. Chance.
Man that suck. I really hope mine work better.
 
Range Report 2: Electric Boogaloo

Getting ready, kids. Gather around. I have a story to tell you!

The trip to the range was short. As I got the gear inside, and the shotgun uncased, I sensed the eyes of others at the range fall squarely on the firearm sitting on the bench.

"Is that a SPAS-12?!" Asked the RSO.

His expression dropped when I told him it was a Turkish semiautomatic cosplaying as a SPAS-12.

A frown fell upon his brow when I told him the issues I'd experienced.

Now that I've set the scene, let us being.

This gun does not work. In its factory configuration, with all the OEM parts in it, it still double feeds, fails to feed, and locks open with ammo in the magazine.

Ammo used was Score buck and slugs, as well as Federal blue box 1 oz 1650 FPS slugs.
View attachment 1203014

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The spontaneous disassembly also continues.

View attachment 1203013

This is the magazine tube spring retainer after only less than 10 shots of interrupted buck and slugs.

Since the gun was kind enough to take itself apart, I went ahead and tested the gun without the spring retainer and replaced the OEM spring with an S&J spring trimmed to 1.5x the length of the magtube plus extension.

The doublefeeds and failure to feed continued.

A different orange plastic follower was used instead of the OEM follower. Same issues.

The OEM follower and spring were used without the spring retainer. Same issues, and now shells were binding in the magtube.

Round count is around 300 shells of high brass 1500+ FPS buck and slugs.

I did have two uninterrupted strings of fire where all 6 or 7 shells fired, ejected, fed, and the gun locked open.

And the heatshield screws are loose again by the way...

This gun gets one. More. Chance.
Sheesh. That does suck. Maybe you got a lemon? - I’ve had those before.

Thanks for reporting.

Did you loctite the screws or just tighten them? I loctite’d mine this afternoon.

I also dissembled and wiped off excess oil. I think my spring locater (the limiter within the mag tube) has moved some. I’m going to try a 1/2” wood dowel cut to size to keep it where it should be.

You must have a bad shell latch or something.

Mine is still chugging away on the high velocity #6 birdshot, but that hardly puts any stress on the gun.

I did manage to induce a double feed while clearing my chamber - I don’t like a loaded chamber when I move through the bush with my son - it was easy to clear and entirely my fault.
 
Sheesh. That does suck. Maybe you got a lemon? - I’ve had those before.

Thanks for reporting.

Did you loctite the screws or just tighten them? I loctite’d mine this afternoon.

I also dissembled and wiped off excess oil. I think my spring locater (the limiter within the mag tube) has moved some. I’m going to try a 1/2” wood dowel cut to size to keep it where it should be.

You must have a bad shell latch or something.

Mine is still chugging away on the high velocity #6 birdshot, but that hardly puts any stress on the gun.

I did manage to induce a double feed while clearing my chamber - I don’t like a loaded chamber when I move through the bush with my son - it was easy to clear and entirely my fault.
Degreased, blue locktite, and torqued good'n'tight.

I'm hoping it is a lemon. I'll be sending an email to TI asking for another gun.
 
Degreased, blue locktite, and torqued good'n'tight.

I'm hoping it is a lemon. I'll be sending an email to TI asking for another gun.
Maybe the barrel is getting hot enough to soften the blue loctite?

I wouldn’t want to put red on them, we’ll need to get them undone to clean the barrel.

Maybe red, and then heat the screws with a soldering iron when the shroud needs to come off.

I checked my shell catch and by all manners of cycling I can not get mine to double feed.

I suspect you’ve got a bent or out of spec shell catch. Once the live round is ejected from the magazine, it operates on the back of the shell latch to close off the magazine - it’s like a teeter totter.
 
Not sure if it is Gen 1 or 2, as mainly listened to it on my phone, but Classic Firearms had some Turkish issues, one game ending from factory, with their copies:
 
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