Browning Recoilless.....

Recoil was probably less than an 1100 but noticeably heavier and only single shot. The magazine tube is blocked by that weight contraption. That's very likely why they didn't sell. Why buy a single shot 1100/870 hybrid when you can buy a lighter 1100 trap and shoot doubles for probably less money. I don't know what the 870 Competition sold for new but I bet it wasn't cheap. That barrel assembly probably weighs twice as much as an 1100 barrel. The adjustable comb wwasn't factory, someone added that before me.

I honestly never noticed a difference between that and my 870 tc trap. A gimmick IMO
 
You're a lot more organized than me. I found a Model 31 in the back of my gun pile that I can't remember buying. :d

Isn't that sweet. I love when that happens :) and it does when the books has 100's and 100's in it over the years. Dad started me doing the book when he had the small gun shop over 50 years ago and I never stopped
 
You're a lot more organized than me. I found a Model 31 in the back of my gun pile that I can't remember buying. :d

Have the same problem,found an 1873 trap door Springfield that had me scratching for a few days...
 
Was the felt recoil equivalent to shooting an 1100 or were they a bit softer or harsher?

Anyone here ever own or still own a Ljutic Space Gun with the Dyno-kick recoilless feature?

The 870 Competition gun I tried years back during a meat shoot seemed a tad softer than the 1100's I shot when using 1 1/8 oz loads.

I've not had the pleasure of shooting the Ljutic but did handle one at a gunshow once. Pity Al didn't didn't make more than a couple hundred of 'em. :(

The Ljutic Spacegun is one of those designs that are strangely beautiful to me and were my inspiration to build up a pump gun along the the same lines as the AR rifles & Ljutic. Having a straight line path of recoil with the AR type layout sure cuts down muzzle flip & the pistol grip aids control during shooting. When I discovered the Mesa Tactical Recoil Stock kits with the Enidine shock absorber back in '07, I knew this was the way for me to go. I did up my 870 first followed by a Mossberg 835 & a Winchester M1200.
All were used for registered trap & meat shoots. The 870 is the one I still have & use.

Folks wanting a soft kickin' pump gun are well served by a setup like these. Recoil feels like a 28 ga gun..No poop. Only buggaboo for some is getting used to an optic on a trap gun and getting used to other shooters reactions on the line. Most are pretty positive, along with odd looks from some. No worries for me
as comfort be the key.

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guntech;[URL="tel:18661356" said:
18661356[/URL]]I didn't think there were that many out there that can still afford to shoot trap...

At the price ammo, gas and other associated travel expenses are soaring I'm sure it's taking many of the shooters out of the game. As much as my wife and I enjoy going to ATA shoots we've cut our 2022 shoot schedule back to just 3 shoots for this year and we'll be scaling back our home club casual shooting from 2 evenings per week to 1 evening.
 
I didn't think there were that many out there that can still afford to shoot trap...

Fer me at least, the goal is finding clubs in my area that hold prize shoots. Most have shut them down due to the covid BS. I stopped PITA competing a few years back and focus only on prize shoots now. Hopefully this year will see a return of these events.
 
About 10 years ago Beretta brought out their UGB25 which was a break open auto loader intended for trap shooting. They reportedly had low recoil. There were a few at my club back then but I haven't seen one in years.
 
About 10 years ago Beretta brought out their UGB25 which was a break open auto loader intended for trap shooting. They reportedly had low recoil. There were a few at my club back then but I haven't seen one in years.

I ran into a guy using one shooting Sporting in Alberta twice last year.
 
Cow Town Bill;[URL="tel:18666518" said:
18666518[/URL]]About 10 years ago Beretta brought out their UGB25 which was a break open auto loader intended for trap shooting. They reportedly had low recoil. There were a few at my club back then but I haven't seen one in years.

Epps had one for sale about a year ago and I knew a fellow that owned one. I believe he sold it years ago.
 
bdft;[URL="tel:18667582" said:
18667582[/URL]]Another answer to a question that nobody asked. I have read that Beretta built that because it wasn't easy to tell if a semi auto's action was open so they built a break open semi auto. No idea if that is true.

I never heard that one before but who knows? The fellow I knew that had one didn't care much for it and was anxious to sell it.
 
Another answer to a question that nobody asked. I have read that Beretta built that because it wasn't easy to tell if a semi auto's action was open so they built a break open semi auto. No idea if that is true.

I have read that this gun is popular in Europe where pumps and semi autos are frowned upon---gun is regarded as a break open gun and thus permitted.
 
I have read that this gun is popular in Europe where pumps and semi autos are frowned upon---gun is regarded as a break open gun and thus permitted.

It was designed for International Trap , where you can shoot a second shot if you miss the bird with the first.
You have to move to your next station station with the gun unloaded, and it's a biit of a pain to do with unbloadiing a semi every time.
This enables the shooter to easily remove the second cartridge before moving.
Cat
 
One of the shows I did , I remember one on someone's table, kind of a weird thing, same with the browning, Thou I damn near bought a browning one time, But really did not need it.
 
iron cat;[URL="tel:18668764" said:
18668764[/URL]]It was designed for International Trap , where you can shoot a second shot if you miss the bird with the first.
You have to move to your next station station with the gun unloaded, and it's a biit of a pain to do with unbloadiing a semi every time.
This enables the shooter to easily remove the second cartridge before moving.
Cat

I've never seen nor shot ANY clay target game where you can move from one station to another with a loaded gun and even in International if you didn't fire your second round unloading a semi is as simple as pulling the charging handle rearward and ejecting a round. No more difficult than breaking open an over under....
 
I've never seen nor shot ANY clay target game where you can move from one station to another with a loaded gun and even in International if you didn't fire your second round unloading a semi is as simple as pulling the charging handle rearward and ejecting a round. No more difficult than breaking open an over under....

I realize that, but that was what it was designed for, I guess the designers thought those that were using semis wanted more convience I guess. I shot one of those Berretas and din't like it at all, it had more moventment and clunks when it cycled than an 1100!
Cat
 
I have always been intrigued by the UGB25, although I admit here in Canada it is a solution looking for a problem. I would love to try shooting one. I have shouldered them and they point well for me.

I tried a recoiless browning years ago. I recall it had very little recoil but there was a lot going on after you pulled the trigger and I found it so weird, it threw me off. I also recall it was not simple to load. I dont do well in trap when I have distractions like fumbling with loading etc when I am on the line.
 
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