Lot of Fudds at Colby.
Burlington gun club...5 month wait minimum!!
- Thread starter nwills
- Start date
- Location
- 42 Band of Eight Central
Colby was almost my pick.
Each shooting lane is virtually independent of the others.
Targets on retractable trolleys and not having to put up with idiots who don't know what to do on a cease fire range call.
I was at Galt where they permit rifles on the outdoor handgun range this summer as a guest shooter and there was nothing as irritating as watching a couple of cowboys handling guns on a firing line bench during a cease fire (red light) when we were up changing targets.
The main cons at Colby is that it's 25 yards maximum so if you've got a deer rifle to sight in you're sol and ammo prices are sky high.
Two violations here. One major and one minor. Handling guns while shooters are forward of the line is a violation at Galt as it is most places. Your member host should have said something to the violators.Colby was almost my pick.
Each shooting lane is virtually independent of the others.
Targets on retractable trolleys and not having to put up with idiots who don't know what to do on a cease fire range call.
I was at Galt where they permit rifles on the outdoor handgun range this summer as a guest shooter and there was nothing as irritating as watching a couple of cowboys handling guns on a firing line bench during a cease fire (red light) when we were up changing targets.
The main cons at Colby is that it's 25 yards maximum so if you've got a deer rifle to sight in you're sol and ammo prices are sky high.
The minor violation is guests are not supposed to shoot rifles on the handgun range. Members only.
Galt is overrun with Fudds. You can't swing a dead cat at Galt without hitting a Fudd.
C Broad Arrow
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
100% true. The absolute BS that goes one regarding safety courses is appaling. All of the club safety officers teach the same basic program from the same outline established at the provincial level by the CSSA in conjuntion with the CFO.
How would want to take up any sport where is requires you to endure long waits, endless bureaucracy, and petty politics between various club safety officers as to whether they will recognize your clubs "safety course".
In the days prior to the PAL/RPAL there was no standardized basic training. The CSSA and the NFA have brought a measure of standardization in safety training. Now it is time for the old farts at the clubs to recognize that if they do not find a way to leverage this and use to to increase their membership, not only will they not grow their clubs, but their membership base will likely shrink resulting in another round of political interference and higher regulation. Not because it is warranted, but because the government can. And without numbers, to fight back and lobby, they will until there is no recreational handgun shooting or clubs left in the province.
skeetgunner
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Burlington
Friday i wasnt even on a vaiting list for the burlington club... now im a member
What's really interesting is that you're not the only one. This thread generated quite a lot of inquiries, either here or on our forums. Imagine, people actually joining RB because of a thread #####ing about joining RB. Serendipity or what?
That's very valid complaint. The classroom isn't bad, but the "lounge" is a bit of an eyesore. Now that the range renovations (new bullet proof roof) are deferred, we've started on the lounge. The pop and candy machines are being replaced, may have been already. There's a new insulated, drop ceiling roof and high-efficiency lights already in. Table and chairs will likely be next. I'd like to see a BEV dish and 48" flatscreen too. Cooked food is a non-starter....its just too small.
Moving the club (new land, new facilities) is a $5-8M dollar proposition, assuming we could get the land and the permits from a city. There is cheaper land available elsewhere, but staying in Burlington for under $5M would be a challenge. We don't want to make the mistakes that Peel did, better to learn from them. And we don't want to be the Rockwood Rifle and Revolver Club either. ESSA and Silverdale own their real estate, so getting 20-30 year mortgages is possible, a luxury we don't have at present.
I guess they ran out. The range has been painted white for almost 5 years...
What's really interesting is that you're not the only one. This thread generated quite a lot of inquires, either here or on our forums. Imagine, people actually joining RB because of a thread #####ing about joining RB. Serendipity or what?
For many reasons that other people already mentioned, and some that they did not, Range Burlington has grown to be largest handgun/ rifle indoor range.
Or perhaps even biggest gun club in Southern Ontario with over 1700 active members.
Physically, it is not very large facility and as far as I know has no plans of expanding, there will come time where there is just too many members and range time gets to be too crowded, if that has not arrived already?
Are you guys preparing for necessary measures to control the numbers down to feasible and workable amount of members, how soon do you think that will happen, and which way are you going- membership caps or membership fees increases?
at least Burlington they dont charge money for the safety course. but you do have to pay 100 initiation. what i really hate is when clubs charge you 50-100 just for the course esp after i already taken one before. when i originally took one i paid 10 bucks that was after it went up from 5! i thought i was being ripped off lol.
Contradictions
In a thread that started off about wait times for joining a club we have seen many comments, some of them interesting and useful, but also some contradictions such as a requirement to increase membership:
and a requirement to control membership:
but my own favorite, particularly in view of the title of the thread, is:
Welcome to the club.
Snapshot
In a thread that started off about wait times for joining a club we have seen many comments, some of them interesting and useful, but also some contradictions such as a requirement to increase membership:
and a requirement to control membership:
but my own favorite, particularly in view of the title of the thread, is:
Friday i wasnt even on a vaiting list for the burlington club... now im a member
Welcome to the club.
Snapshot
- Location
- 42 Band of Eight Central
+ 2 billion.
My cousin has been working as a registered nurse in New York State (upstate - not NYC) for about 10 years.
He is a member of a shooting club in NYS and in neighboring PA.
I got an email from him a couple of days ago and he informed me that the PA club costs him $35 a year and the NYS club costs him $30 a year.
His NYS pistol license is good for life (no expiry) and his PA carry license is $20 for 5 years.
When he joined the US clubs there was a brief orientation session on the first day and then he was a full member. No kindergarten - day care center style diaper parade probation period or other Mickey Mouse kids stuff. You were treated like an adult from day 1.
Of course there is no CFO, RCMP or other government agency with a thinly veiled mandate to attack the shooting sports and gun owners in those US jurisdictions and more importantly there were no autocratic club executives or range nazis unwittingly assisting the anti gun government agencies by imposing silly and ridiculous requirements and discouraging and obstructing new shooters from entering the sport like there are in Canada.
Incidentally, the safety record of the two clubs is perfect.
He is a member of a shooting club in NYS and in neighboring PA.
I got an email from him a couple of days ago and he informed me that the PA club costs him $35 a year and the NYS club costs him $30 a year.
His NYS pistol license is good for life (no expiry) and his PA carry license is $20 for 5 years.
When he joined the US clubs there was a brief orientation session on the first day and then he was a full member. No kindergarten - day care center style diaper parade probation period or other Mickey Mouse kids stuff. You were treated like an adult from day 1.
Of course there is no CFO, RCMP or other government agency with a thinly veiled mandate to attack the shooting sports and gun owners in those US jurisdictions and more importantly there were no autocratic club executives or range nazis unwittingly assisting the anti gun government agencies by imposing silly and ridiculous requirements and discouraging and obstructing new shooters from entering the sport like there are in Canada.
Incidentally, the safety record of the two clubs is perfect.
skeetgunner
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Burlington
- Location
- 42 Band of Eight Central
That is what it SHOULD be like here...
Be careful of what you wish for. I spend a lot of time in the US where you can buy a gun and use it just by being born. I've seen gun handling behaviors that would make anyone cringe or want to run for cover. I met a man in Texas that had a CCW and a 1911 but didn't know if it was SA or DA. He told me DA possibly because that sounded better.
I would not want us to have the US Non-system. It's impossible to like our nonsense but I wouldn't want to trade it for theirs. If we were to take some of their common sense, add rigorous training and licensing based on qualifications and that would make me a happier shooter.
TERMINATOR101CA
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- TORONTO, CANADA
Well good old natural selection takes place when they shoot their nuts off bcs of their practices, nothing wrong with that, it worked for millions of years without a hitch and it still does.
- Location
- 42 Band of Eight Central
I'd take that system such as in Vermont in a heartbeat over the BS we have here.
