Can a store keep my fully transferred handgun from me

Ravage said:
I talked to the Alberta CFO and explained what was going on she was flabbergasted and made a note about it on my file, I will try to contact the Ontario CFO tomorrow as well. I also sent a email to both the Alberta and Ontario CFO explaining what was going on and I included my receipt of sale and the transfer registration so there is a papertrail. Where my annoyance to just pay the extra comes from is that this was not the first time they have done completely idiotic things like this. I ordered some barnes 110gr reloading bullets awhile ago and they held it from being shipped and when I finally contacted them they informed me that reloading bullets are hazardous explosive devices according to Canadian law and cannot be shipped in Canada ! after spending days arguing that they are completely wrong and their explanation makes absolutely no sense they just cancelled my order and then said there is no shipping allowed to Alberta in Canada !

In the heat of the gun buy I made the mistake of buying from them again but here we go again with them talking out their butts and now want me to pay even tho I have fully paid for my purchase. I have done nothing but purchased my firearm in good faith and they are the ones on their own that are messing with my order and I am sick of them just deciding they can make changes and I am just supposed to accept it.
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Lmao this is the biggest load of #### from them or you are leaving important details out(highly likely) between your conversation. If they can #### ammo Via UPS they can ship bullets. Something isn't right here.
 
Ravage said:
I originally posted this in the pistol thread but apparently it has been moved to the Tenda thread now so I feel I need to clarify a few things because of this change. I did not mention Tenda in my first post I just asked a question about ownership but it became very apparent from the posts people just said Tenda on their own which goes to show this is not an isolated incident and their business practices are well know so I did confirm later it was Tenda.

So here it is more of an explanation I was looking for a CZ P-07 and so I made the purchase from Tenda as they had them in stock at the time. I paid fully on my credit card and chose UPS as the shipper as I at the exact same time had also purchased a CZ P-10SC from another store in Ontario using UPS ( YES I really like CZ pistols )
$879.99 - P-07
Free Shipping
$9.09 - Insurance
$44.00 - GST

I fully paid $933.08 for the P-07 and the sale as completed and the transfer initiated, Fast forward ahead to after approval of transfer and we then come to the issue. Tenda sends me a message that they have changed the shipping from UPS to Canada Post and that I must either wave shipping insurance and ship $1000 purchase uninsured or give them an additional $15 or they will cancel the sale. I replied that I had already paid for insurance and they had switched the shipping company not me so in my mind they should make up for the difference on their end especially how they had already increased the price of the P-07 quite a bit from what they were selling them for only 6 months earlier I felt it was on Tenda not me.

They messaged me back saying UPS does not ship to my city of 70,000 people in Alberta and I have to pay the $15 or decline insurance, Now as I previously said I had also purchased a P-10SC from another store and that transfer also went through at the same time and that store was shipping using UPS and that shipment went through and they gave me the tracking number for the shipment so I messaged Tenda saying that UPS does indeed ship to my city as I currently have a P-10SC being shipped to me at this very moment. Today I have my P-10SC in my possession as UPS did in fact deliver it to me with no issues at all

Tenda then again told me to decline shipping insurance or pay an additional $15 or they will cancel the sale revoke my registration and resell the P-07 and I had till monday to decide or they would revoke my ownership. At this point is when I contacted the Ontario CFO and we had multiple discussions but to boil it all down to this from the head boss CFO, There is no legal requirement for the exchange of money in regards to transferring firearm ownership and any money issues is a civil matter that they will not get involved in. The P-07 was legally transferred to me and is registered to me and that is their position on the matter. A store can reverse registration if it is the buyer who is the one who cancels the sale and returns the firearm to the stores ownership but in this case I am not canceling the sale and giving up my ownership and that is were the real difference is in regards to having a store "take back" a firearm.

Now I know its $15 and paying it would have prevented a lot of issues however with that being said my position is that I have done nothing wrong here I already overpaid for a handgun that 6 months ago they were selling at a much lower price and making their profit and I did pay already $9 for full insurance and the fact their position was pay us or else we take your gun and just resell it and there is nothing I can do really really ticked me off so that is why I am not giving in to basically extortion / kidnapping and just paying more to Tenda.

Well that hopefully clarifies some things
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Assuming that this is what actually happened as we don't know what Tenda's side of the story is.

One can choose either to look at it from the miniscule $ figure, pay it, and call it a day.

On another hand, OP chose to approach this from the right and wrong principal. Sorry for digressed a bit here. Many of us wondering why we are where we are right now. Using recent example of what happened at Oakville school. The conservative and the right always looked upon as the "nicer" or sometime timid group. We rather tolerate a bit though it is wrong to avoid confrontation and preserve peace. Look what is happening now all around us. IMHO, it is one of the results of people giving in bit by bit even though it is wrong just so we are being nice. Every time we compromise even a little bit and agree to the opposite even though that they are wrong, we don't get it back and they continue to gain the momentum.

Yes pay the $15 to avoid the hassle and move on, IF what you care about is only the $ figure and time, and you desperately want the gun now.

Don't pay the $15 IF you stand for what it is right and wrong.

On another perspective, again assuming OP's side of the story is the only fact, Tenda could have just waive the $15 (cost of a food court meal now days/worth few days worth of coffees), avoid this hassle, and learned from their shortcoming.

At last, sure people know that someone/something/organization/government is only in power ONLY IF people give in and allow them to be in power.

If you stand for the truth and right and wrong OP is the reason why you are doing this and this is the only side of the story, I commend you for it. God bless!
 
Guy, insurance is never included. Get real. They are being very reasonable asking you to waive insurance or pay for it. You’re being thick headed and possibly about to pay for it. Look for sympathy here all you want but I think all you’ll find are people pointing out how unreasonable you are being.
 
pipeliner said:
Guy, insurance is never included. Get real. They are being very reasonable asking you to waive insurance or pay for it. You’re being thick headed and possibly about to pay for it. Look for sympathy here all you want but I think all you’ll find are people pointing out how unreasonable you are being.
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OP already paid for the insurance. The fact that they changed shipping companies is their problem, not his, so they should eat the cost, and definitely not try to extort him for more money.
 
You have 2 options:

Pay the $15.00 difference which you will forget about within a few days...
Cancel the order which you will regret for the rest of your life...

My two cents.
 
I completely agree.

To the OP:
Dude it's $15, just pay it. I know you are completely innocent and Tenda is a complete #### on this one. But life has lot more, just pay it and get the gun.
Tenda is infamous about shipping practice, we all know that.
You stand your ground not for the monetary reason but rather moral principle. I truly admire that. But sometimes life has much more to offer. Just move on and forget about $15 and this Tenda ######

xURSOx said:
You have 2 options:

Pay the $15.00 difference which you will forget about within a few days...
Cancel the order which you will regret for the rest of your life...

My two cents.
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Pretty sad how people on here are such pushovers.
Bunch of people with their molon labe tattoos and badass attitudes completely fine with our retailers fvcking us over repeatedly. As long as they get their toys in the end...
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JQIAN said:
I completely agree.

To the OP:
Dude it's $15, just pay it. I know you are completely innocent and Tenda is a complete #### on this one. But life has lot more, just pay it and get the gun.
Tenda is infamous about shipping practice, we all know that.
You stand your ground not for the monetary reason but rather moral principle. I truly admire that. But sometimes life has much more to offer. Just move on and forget about $15 and this Tenda ######
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Got to agree on this one. Id just pay it and move on. This the times we live in right now. I ordered a new vehicle at the beginning of all the scamdemic nonsense. Waited 5 months and when they finally had the delivery date they told me what it was coming with and did not have all the specific things we ordered. We were told take it or leave it, if we didnt want it it would be gone the next day. Much like your pistol..........
 
squidxm said:
Pretty sad how people on here are such pushovers.
Bunch of people with their molon labe tattoos and badass attitudes completely fine with our retailers fvcking us over repeatedly. As long as they get their toys in the end...
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Not much choice right meow. People will remember who tried to screw us when and if this is ever done with. I feel fortunate to have most of the guns I've always wanted. But if this happened 5-10 years ago I would be paying the price for what I wanted. There's a difference between being a push over and the reality of the situation that was not created by the Vendors. That being said I do not agree with this Vendors decision on this.
 
I'd pay it.

This thread, along with dozens of others, should be enough fair warning to future customers.

Good, fast, cheap. At Tenda you pick one of those.
 
squidxm said:
Pretty sad how people on here are such pushovers.
Bunch of people with their molon labe tattoos and badass attitudes completely fine with our retailers fvcking us over repeatedly. As long as they get their toys in the end...
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Maybe its not that. Maybe your time is worth more than a couple of bucks. Correction If you have disposable income for yet another handgun your time is worth more than 15 bucks.
 
Haha, I would pay, confirm gun is shipped, then lay the sh!t on them here. Tenda does this very often, you are not the first, won't be the last... I'm a victim of this behaviour as well...
 
BRO! you're actually making a big stink over 15$ on a commodity that's actually going to be extinct in a month or so, seriously. This is how it is, not just handguns, everyone is getting screwed. PS5's are still not in stock and Sony announced a 20$ price hike, is it fair, hell no! but it will be sold out in an instant, so you can either make a stink and never get it or just pay and have it. You really going to play with fire over $15 bucks on a handgun that will sell the same day for probably more now. Make your pick, but this is a hill not worth dying on dude
 
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