Canadian Made Swiss Arms AR Lower

No, I am not going to piss in your cereal, punch your dog, or push your ageing father down a flight of stairs because that would be pointless. It is juvenile and excessive of you to equate such things to my constructive criticism.

The SA has a folding stock. People who don't like that can keep the stock unfolded. The stock is also available in an adjustable model, so any accusations that the stock does not adjust are misplaced. What people want is the ability to use AR mags, because they are cheap and plentiful, and hey, if you have a SA, and an AR, and an XCR, and SL8, it would be nice if they all ran the same mags so you wouldn't have to have many different ones. Yes, the AR mags are possibly not as reliable as the G36 or the SA mags, but the AR and the XCR already run with them, and the SL8 has an easily exchangeable magwell for which AR magwells have been available for years. So making the SA accept AR mags is just the next step of standardising .223/5.56 caliber firearms to run the same mags.

The argument for the AR stock that is has "the largest pool of developed and affordable accessories" is bullocks because people who will purchase these lowers will already have the SA butt-stock from the SA. They probably don't want to shell out for an AR stock when they already have something that works just as well. Changing the SA grip to take AR grips would be fine, as there are many of them, and they all offer same function, but removing the folding mechanism is a step backwards.

As quite a few people pointed out, they would rather keep the folding stock, but they want to run AR mags.

It is understandable that you would choose to go with AR butt-stocks, because it is alot easier to drill a large hole or two and tap it instead of milling the hinges and the locking mechanism. That will come in the second version, yes? After everyone has purchased this version crippled by the need to obtain AR parts to get it to work, they can purchase the second version again! Sounds like Steve Jobs has been giving seminars on how to run a business.

I'm not saying you are inept, but I am saying that this seems like a half-baked product that with more effort could provide what people want: The ability for their SA to take AR mags in exchange for an outlay of money without any penalties like having to purchase additional parts or loosing functionality.

If you want to fork out for a PO like the other did, you're more than welcome to offer any design changes you see fit. The minimum order to demand design changes is 100. Else, this is a post of updates of what IS, not what you'd like.. I believe the majority of people don't want to strip their stocks of their swiss lowers.. just like they didn't want to strip their internals. But I'm sure you're more interested in criticizing than buying.

I guess if you don't like it, you should do with every other item you don't like.. don't buy it and move on. I'm sure if the customer wanted it to incorporate the factory folder it would, but in the interest of keeping costs down the majority leans this way.

NEA isn't going to be able to make everyone happy, but I'm sure the ones complaining are the ones with no intention of buying in the first place. As it is with most designs people here try to bring to market, there is more criticism than support.
 
So my understanding is that this would be like buying a stripped AR lower? The end user would install a LPK and buttstock assembly of their choice?

One other question, since these are Al alloy, are you finishing them in Type III anodising?

Thanks!
 
So my understanding is that this would be like buying a stripped AR lower? The end user would install a LPK and buttstock assembly of their choice?

One other question, since these are Al alloy, are you finishing them in Type III anodising?

Thanks!

It will be Type 3 anodize
 
As someone thats made a functional firearm part (A usc to ump stock block adapter) I can say that it takes a HUGE amount of time to measure and deisgn it. With a part that complex you need to test them and make sure its functional and wont wear out or damage anything BEFORE it goes into production.


If you guys want a folding stock, grab an ACE folding stock adapter. I believe FAB Sports sells em, then you can have the best of both worlds, an AR15 telescoping stock for an adjustable length of pull, and a folding stock!


Im sure that if enough interest is made, they can either make another run of SIG folding stock types, or maybe a model with an interchangeable stock adapter. Who knows, but at least this way they are getting the ball rolling! :D
 
I look forward to seeing pictures of the final product.

By the way I do have to agree with oenone on some things. My personal preference was for a Swiss Arms lower that took AR mags. I hate folding stocks, but the Swiss Arms is the exception to the rule. It's the only one I really like. The look also suites the rifle.

Don't shoot the messenger, oenone was just pointing out that there are some people out there that like the traditional look. I also happen to be one of them.

That being said. I'm wondering what this would like like with some of the AR stocks. Should be interesting. Might have to get one.
 
I look forward to seeing pictures of the final product.

By the way I do have to agree with oenone on some things. My personal preference was for a Swiss Arms lower that took AR mags. I hate folding stocks, but the Swiss Arms is the exception to the rule. It's the only one I really like. The look also suites the rifle.

Don't shoot the messenger, oenone was just pointing out that there are some people out there that like the traditional look. I also happen to be one of them.

Me too...I have 4 swiss arms rifles and would love to purchase a couple lowers for AR magazines that utilize the swiss factory folder.

Cheers,

Brobee
 
Yesterday we started work on an adapter that will allow a user to install the swiss folder on the lower shown in our model. It will not be released with the lower but will come out early winter sme time.
 
Gentlemen:

I applaud you on your ingenuity and support of the Canadian shooting.

I look forward to further developments.

Tag for further constructive updates.

AbH
 
No really, thanks for coming out. May you would like to drop by my house and piss in my cereal, punch my dog or push my aging father down a flight of stairs???????

The reason for making platforms work with AR accessories was quite obvious.......... or so i thought. It has the largest pool of developed and affordable accessories.

Your welcome to tool up and run a batch of your own lowers to prove me wrong.


That was hilarious! You've come up one notch in my book, Charly :D
 
Yesterday we started work on an adapter that will allow a user to install the swiss folder on the lower shown in our model. It will not be released with the lower but will come out early winter sme time.

Thanks to you I think some of my hard earned tour money will be used on a SAN and your new lowers :p

P.S. the AR buttstock is way better then the out dated swiss folder "thank you :)"
 
Question

On the machines this week. Coming to Target Sports and Shooting Edge this fall.

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Charles Martel,

Has the Lower been released yet to Target Sports and TSE?

Thanks,
EC
 
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