Canadian Made Swiss Arms AR Lower

dizzy said:
Take a course or two in cost management, and you might lose the head wobble.
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If you care to re-read, or in your case just read my previous post I conceeded the availability and cost of STANAG mags. It was probably the word proliferation. Maybe if I type it slower...

dizzy said:
I highly doubt the swiss mags will save a life in a firefight in a situation where a stanag wouldn't.
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AR mags have come a long way in a relatively short period. There are very good, reliable mags for them, but that was not what I was refering to.

The nature of the design of the magazine and how it seats in the mag well, and how long those magazines remain serviceable is the issue, not the quality of the feed path once proper seating is established - It's called 'tap rack' for a reason. Bolt override failures are real. The design while quicker to learn and arguably faster, is fundamentally flawed.


dizzy said:
Would be nice if you could stop and think for a minute, rather than needing to be spoon fed. Sheesh.
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Pretty much sums up your knowledge on the subject. :slap:
 
beltfed said:
The nature of the design of the magazine and how it seats in the mag well, and how long those magazines remain serviceable is the issue, not the quality of the feed path once proper seating is established - It's called 'tap rack' for a reason. Bolt override failures are real. The design while quicker to learn and arguably faster, is fundamentally flawed.
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Barrel life and mag life are often closely matched for a reason,(serviceable time) the mag designs are not perfect for any platform, you can analyse it to death, makes no difference to me. The point is the market calls for STANAG mags over the SAN mags and some are willing to supply to the market, just not sure why you think that's a bad thing, or why you ask folks to prove the obvious. Thats all.
 
For me it boils down that I have 20 stanag mags and 2 SAN mags as I bought my SAN long after I got into ARs. It would cost me as much as the lower to get as many SAN mags as I have stanag mags. And I can have 10 rounders to boot. And I don't have to carry two sets of mags.

I'm sure I'm not the only one in this boat. I still don't like losing the SAN folder, though.
 
Rich LPS said:
The perfect Emag, with clamps.

By the way...the USGI M16 / AR15 mag has a built in design flaw...not the best or most reliable mags in the world (not terrible, pretty good). The Magpul mags (and a few other new designs like Lancer) are a great correction in the design aimed at helping this and reliability. Do your home work before spouting off about the USGI AR mags.....

Many gun companies made their own mags due to this fact. They couldn't live with the flaws in the M16 mags. Examples, the AUG, G36 and of course Swiss Arms (this was of course all pre - Magpul times).

Rich
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I spent part of a day last week with some KSK guys. They showed me their mags. Guess what. They first thing they do when issued new mags is dremel off the nubs for interlocking mags as they get caught up in pouches and on gear.

Same thing with the DEA guys we have been dealing with on our G36 mag well adapters.
 
Rich LPS said:
Dremeling off the nubs, true, many units do it. USGI mags feeding better than AUG, G36 or SAN mags, no.

Rich
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My new friends at KSK disagree with you. They also pointed out to me 50 times, that they were able to carry 2-3 AR mags in the same pouch that holds only on HK/Swiss mag.
 
G36-mags are quite a bit bigger then SAN-magazines. For example, I use Tactical Tailor-mag pouches for AR15-magazines for my SAN-30rd-mags and they work just fine.

I'd trade my G36-mags for Pmags, too. The guy who constructed the G36-mag deserves to be beaten to death with his magazines.
 
Please keep in mind that the gun might be a little marked up as its a working gun.


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