Canadian Manufactured 7.62 x 51 Semi Auto

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i support you severus. ill buy canadian any day regardless of price. ive noticed alot of armchair experts here and im alittle sick of thier mentality. being negative is so canadian i work in a weapons vault at a canadian military base. we have 1000's of small arms from around the world and i believe canadians can and should build something nice for the canadian consumers. we have a socom m1a with a burst barrel due to cheap metal in the vault and it just shows how today companys can sell on thier name alone and not on quality. promise to me that you'll build something and me and the wife will each buy one. good luck sir!
 
angrysoldier said:
i support you severus. ill buy canadian any day regardless of price. ive noticed alot of armchair experts here and im alittle sick of thier mentality. being negative is so canadian i work in a weapons vault at a canadian military base. we have 1000's of small arms from around the world and i believe canadians can and should build something nice for the canadian consumers. we have a socom m1a with a burst barrel due to cheap metal in the vault and it just shows how today companys can sell on thier name alone and not on quality. promise to me that you'll build something and me and the wife will each buy one. good luck sir!
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Roger that.
 
severus said:
Not sure how you got that out of anything I have posted to this site. Do you honestly think we expect end users to be Beta testers? C'mon, get real.

This post and the ones like are getting a little negative. For those of you who have these types of opinions that amount to "type first, think later (step two optional)" you might want to think about what it takes to make something like this happen. We are not a group of armchair sunday plinker experts. We are not building a toy nor are we building a piece of junk in our garage.

This is a professional endeavour. I have run into enough negative people in my life with EXPERT negative opinions about everything and generally they are broke or have not amounted to much in their life. If you have differing opinions on the style or feature set that is fine. But consider this: when you post something that has entailed nothing but negativity or complete lack of thought you cost yourself credibility in exchange for the momentary feeling of power that you may derive in your otherwise powerless life.

Severus
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By all means give us more info about the project, you have been lacking in that department.
 
angrysoldier said:
i support you severus. ill buy canadian any day regardless of price. ive noticed alot of armchair experts here and im alittle sick of thier mentality. being negative is so canadian i work in a weapons vault at a canadian military base. we have 1000's of small arms from around the world and i believe canadians can and should build something nice for the canadian consumers. we have a socom m1a with a burst barrel due to cheap metal in the vault and it just shows how today companys can sell on thier name alone and not on quality. promise to me that you'll build something and me and the wife will each buy one. good luck sir!
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:rolleyes:
 
The ultimate Canadian rifle would be a semi-auto Enfield in a FAL stock chambered in .303 EPPS

One that takes enfield mags as well haha

lol

Actually, this isn't a bad idea! I hear Bubba calling from the garage, he's asking if I have a lathe!
 
If you build an affordable, semi auto, non restricted rifle in Canada i will put down down the money!!

Lots of suggestions on here, but just some thoughts from a punter...

-Compatibility with a common magazine (M14/M1A/M305 perhaps?)
-If it is priced along the lines of mid range AR-15...i will send moneys pronto.
-Can you make ammo too? :) stamp out some reasonably priced 7.62x51 while you are at it!!!! :)

You have our support sir!! I can't begin to image why people feel the need to tell others what can or cannot be done... good luck to you on your venture!!

I look forward to your success.
 
K-2 said:
Internationally Canada is known as a high-quality manufacturing country, probably on par with Switzerland or Germany. I feel that the key to success is to produce a superior quality product and then to sell it to the foreign market in order to achieve better economies of scale.
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Perhaps because most of the CNC machinery in Canada that I have seen so far is bought from Germany and Switzerland. :D

But your right I can't see why a Canadian company isn't making such things by now, we certainly have the skills, technology and equipment.
 
I cannot add any constructive input as I'm new to the shooting sports, but I can tell you that being a Canadian product automatically means it will be high on my list of firearms to consider. Best of luck to you.
 
severus said:
Not sure how you got that out of anything I have posted to this site. Do you honestly think we expect end users to be Beta testers? C'mon, get real.

This post and the ones like are getting a little negative. For those of you who have these types of opinions that amount to "type first, think later (step two optional)" you might want to think about what it takes to make something like this happen. We are not a group of armchair sunday plinker experts. We are not building a toy nor are we building a piece of junk in our garage.

This is a professional endeavour. I have run into enough negative people in my life with EXPERT negative opinions about everything and generally they are broke or have not amounted to much in their life. If you have differing opinions on the style or feature set that is fine. But consider this: when you post something that has entailed nothing but negativity or complete lack of thought you cost yourself credibility in exchange for the momentary feeling of power that you may derive in your otherwise powerless life.

Severus
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You're "not sure how I got that"?

Armedsask posted this:

Armedsask said:
When I was brain storming one day about building a gun, I thought the idea that all first series rifle buyers would get a decent discount on buying the newer version. This would be a sort of payment for doing the beta testing. No idea if it would work or be economical, but I thought it was a decent idea.
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You posted this while quoting Armedsask as above:

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We have actually considered this and it will be part of the program when we first go to market in Canada.
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So, what exactly was I supposed to get out of your words?



Accusing potential customers of "typing first, thinking later" and then insulting them is not the way to do business.

Good luck in your future endeavours.
 
Calum said:
But your right I can't see why a Canadian company isn't making such things by now, we certainly have the skills, technology and equipment.
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Probably has more to do with the climate of regulations that exist for civilian gun owners here, and the inability to ship military style arms to the states. It tends to limit the market.
However, raining on someones parade, when they are trying to do something that a lot of us would like to see done, seems very defeatist to me. Look around and see how many folks have gone on to do the things they said they would, even when folks told them they were nuts. My boss being one of them. Started a small die shop in the fifties and now has one of the largest car parts companies in the world. If you have the drive and work ethic, most things can be made a reality. At least you try.
 
Stevo said:
You're "not sure how I got that"?.....Good luck in your future endeavours.
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Stevo,

My apologies. I screwed up. The thread was getting some pretty negative comments and I misinterpreted the armedsask lines. I can admit when I am wrong.

What we are looking at doing is offering out the first batch at a lower introductory price just in case there are some bugs. Although I plan to rip the hell out of the first units myself and with a few testers. I really do not want to offer out something with issues from the start.

Severus

And thanks for the reality check.
 
Severus...I'm behind you and what you're attempting to do. Count me in for one when the time comes!! By the way...I'm cool with restricted version..
 
severus said:
Stevo,

My apologies. I screwed up. The thread was getting some pretty negative comments and I misinterpreted the armedsask lines. I can admit when I am wrong.

What we are looking at doing is offering out the first batch at a lower introductory price just in case there are some bugs. Although I plan to rip the hell out of the first units myself and with a few testers. I really do not want to offer out something with issues from the start.

Severus

And thanks for the reality check.
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No worries.
 
Go for it Severus

Advance and invention happen when folks have courage to try and keep trying.
I look forward to seeing your product in the future.

For me I would love for it to be non restricted, 7.62,5.56 ,Mostly Canadian made very reliable, light-medium weight, excellent balance with loaded mag and optics, integrated top rail, easy barrel swap, folding stock simular to xcr/para/swiss(ace), readily available mags.
Plus show up at shoots across the country showing off your product and let folks try it out.
 
I think we would all be thrilled to see a competively priced Canadian made non-restricted modern MBR. I would seriously consider one also.
 
severus said:
Stevo,

My apologies. I screwed up. The thread was getting some pretty negative comments and I misinterpreted the armedsask lines. I can admit when I am wrong.

What we are looking at doing is offering out the first batch at a lower introductory price just in case there are some bugs. Although I plan to rip the hell out of the first units myself and with a few testers. I really do not want to offer out something with issues from the start.

Severus

And thanks for the reality check.
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I don't think anyone is expecting you guys to sell a gun that hasn't been testing. Was just throwing out the idea as a solution if there is a major flaw found and redesign is required.
 
Best of luck if you are serious about this severus.

But I have to say that, so far, you haven't really shown us Jack Sh%t about any progress with this project.

If you have the manufacturing capacity that you say you do, why on earth would you start with a FULLY FUNCTIONAL RIFLE?? There's a small demand in Canada for well built accessories. You should research the market and manufacture some of them first. It's a MUCH CHEAPER and easier way to put out quality products and build your brand. You could be working on the rifle in the back-ground. That way when the rifle comes out you already have a reputation for well built Canadian products.

I'm not trying to bust you b@lls (well maybe I am a little bit) :D but it's been two years and all you have to show for it are ideas. Armdsask designed an aluminum lower for his AR 180B and had a working prototype in months, and he had far less resources to work with than you say you do.

Here's a challange for you:

I need an ultra low 1' cantilever ring set for my T97. I can't find a set out there low enough for my liking. Please use all your design experience and equipment to build me a set (I'll pay a fair price for them) and you will show us all us doubters that you have the skill and means to build something. I'll post a full thread about your progress, design and quality. It should be a fairly easy project for a company with the resources you claim. Contact me for specs if you are interested.
 
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