Your taking that fishing ; really?
Why not? When I go to a remote lake in my floatplane for a little fishing I certainly take the Webly, in a quick open locked pistol case. Wouldn't go without it.
Your taking that fishing ; really?
Your taking that fishing ; really?
It's pathetic that instead of discussing what handgun would be the most efficient to pack in the boonies, we are resigned to packing the least of a number of "antiques" chambered in underpowered cartridges.
Thinking of the unsuspecting bears I've shot with .308's and 50-70s, I'm trying to imagine taking and angry one on with my .450 Tranter Army. This comes under the category of "worst possible scenario".
Why would anyone want to use an antique pistol for animal protection when one could carry a short barrel shotgun ?
Because people are always trying to find a loophole to defeat the law.
MD;
See post #56... (those reasons listed there) are reasons to use the Antique pistols instead of carrying a shotgun. Has nothing to do with "people.. always trying to find a loophole to defeat the law" That would be Smite, and carrying an Antique pistol isn't about carrying to smite the law. It's (fortunately & un-fortunately) the only Avenue we have in instances we can't have a long-arm along. Simple as that.
If the Firearms program allowed a permit for ordinary Canadian Hunters, Outdoorsmen & Ranch-hands to carry the way their permit program allows Trappers, Guides and Prospectors to carry... we'd glady use that Avenue. As it sits, the Antiques are what we've got. Have them revise the list of permit-able occupations so we can carry modern pistols, and the Antiques could stay home. Til then though.. it is what it is
Zero to do with defeating the law "just-because"
Because sometimes your hands are full, sometimes the instant may not grant quick access to a long-arm tied to a back-pack, or maybe the shotgun was left in camp with other members of the party for their protection (& you gone out of camp with hands full of horses lead-ropes making your way to the creek for water at the end of the day) or maybe because you're at a secluded stream fishing/with rod in hand/knee deep in the water and the shotgun against a tree on shore next to the lunch-bucket... OR, possibly you're in the Farm & Ranch line of work, foots-mobile & repairing a stretch of boggy fence in a block of remote pasture; leather belt full of staples around your waist, a hammer in one hand and wire-stretcher over your opposite shoulder (whatta ya know, no-place left to put a shotgun)
These are a few quick-ones that come to MY mind, where that Antique pistol suddenly has a place & reason. Pistol allows a person in every-one of the above mentioned scenario's protection times that long-guns, be them rifle or shotgun cannot quite do the job.
And I'll echo my same further comment as usual on the subject, it-is ridiculous we must fall unto the Antiques to serve us instead of modern-guns with such a permit that would permit-us carry in the bush and in Rural Canada. Since it's the Antiques that we've got though... and until someone understands that a modern "restricted" can actually serve an ordinary Canadian Outdoorsman /Hunter/or Ranch worker the purpose they are permitted to serve Guides/Prospectors and Trappers.. we use what we can. The right Antique can serve a person pretty well until that time.
MD;
See post #56... (those reasons listed there) are reasons to use the Antique pistols instead of carrying a shotgun. Has nothing to do with "people.. always trying to find a loophole to defeat the law" That would be Smite, and carrying an Antique pistol isn't about carrying to smite the law. It's (fortunately & un-fortunately) the only Avenue we have in instances we can't have a long-arm along. Simple as that.
If the Firearms program allowed a permit for ordinary Canadian Hunters, Outdoorsmen & Ranch-hands to carry the way their permit program allows Trappers, Guides and Prospectors to carry... we'd glady use that Avenue. As it sits, the Antiques are what we've got. Have them revise the list of permit-able occupations so we can carry modern pistols, and the Antiques could stay home. Til then though.. it is what it is
Zero to do with defeating the law "just-because"
I was at a Car show a year or so ago and it was a huge swap meet . well I noticed this old Military jeep parked and I walked up to it and sitting inside was a Tommy gun a Lee Enfield rifle . I looked around the there was'nt anyone in sight . well all of a sudden this guy walked up and he had a revolver in a holster on his side and I knew it was an old Enfield revolver. so I questioned him on how legal it was and he said no problem.
well the way I look at it is don't advertise and people like that could ruin it for the rest of us. I'll bet the guy who had that revolver in this post did'nt even have a Pal .
MD;
If the Firearms program allowed a permit for ordinary Canadian Hunters, Outdoorsmen & Ranch-hands to carry the way their permit program allows Trappers, Guides and Prospectors to carry... we'd glady use that Avenue. "
It is not quite as simple as that; based on a friend who is a trapper, he has to earn more than 50% of his income from trapping (he could not get a permit because he only earned 40 or 45% from trapping) and the location has to be acceptably far from civilization and if the gun is for bear protection, it has to be one of a very small number of cartridges which are acceptable to the firearms office
cheers mooncoon
I'm still confused as to why a gangbanger would go to the trouble of buying an expensive antique pistol from a shop and then take it into the woods to shoot? They will just buy one illegally on the streets NBD for them.



























