Jerry, you are so full of sh%t, it's not even funny.
It's a sad day when people like you spew so much mis-information, start to make up answers to questions that nobody asked, and do it so often, that they start to believe their own sh%t as facts! Maybe next time, try to stick with subject matter that you are familiar with?
You do know that it was the 1980's that the original Lapua round was tested, not the 1880's? Again, do you really think that they used weak 100 year old brass? Obviously you don't. It wasn't that the brass couldn't take the pressure, it was that the brass couldn't take the shape + the pressure. When they drew the existing brass, it got thin, and failed under chamber pressures. Due to the shape of the .416 Rigby case, it can easily handle your so called modern pressures, as it could when it was first designed. You should understand that these pressure have just as much to do with the chamber, as they do with the brass. The same would happen today if you tried to make .338 Lapua from .416 Rigby brass. Surley with all your "custom" cartridge "experience" you can relate to that?
As to your question about performance, and why not use a case that has 15% more capacity? I asked you to provide such a magic case, with the same bolt face, and the same quality brass. Obviously you couldn't come up with one, because it doesn't exist. So now your sugestion, as if to answer the above question, is to improve the existing case? That is the best you can come up with? People have been doing that since the case came out. As to pretty much the same cost, when was the last time you ordered a reamer and set of custom dies? Well over $500.00, and that's with a lot of help. Do it on your own, it will be significantly higher.
I would like to stir the pot some more on the equal or better performance for under $1500 question. I think it is very prudent to the discussion, as that's what the original question was all about. I am very anxious to see what kind of pile of sh&t you may be able to cobble together, for under $1500.00, that would safely get a .338 Lapua down range. Remington can barely do it, but you can? Give us break with your tireless self promotion Jerry, as I said, it's a sad day when you start to believe your own crap as fact.
I'm not even going to start on who would be stupid enough to send you a USO scope to do a "review" on, because that's how much I value your "opinion".
R.
Wow I hope I never meet you at the range you sound like a ####. You could of said all that without the profanity and name calling. The way you chose to post pretty much makes me think your the one that opinion doesn't matter. This forum of late is becoming very hostile.
We all shoot bullets at paper and hope to do it with the best accuracy are talents and budget will allow. Who cares if you do it with a semi custom stevens .223 or a custom Surgeon .338 Lapua. The point is your out shooting.
Best of luck
the just shooting part seems to not be heard by Obtunded...he thinks that hes better than every one else and has said that you will not get precision with this rifle or that...precision is in the eye of the beholder...if i think MOA is precision because that is my personal best...i will be damn proud...and to me personally...i have seen some people make nice groups with factory stevens rifles...you dont have to put people down because you are trying to make up for something![]()
Wow I hope I never meet you at the range you sound like a ####. You could of said all that without the profanity and name calling. The way you chose to post pretty much makes me think your the one that opinion doesn't matter. This forum of late is becoming very hostile.
We all shoot bullets at paper and hope to do it with the best accuracy are talents and budget will allow. Who cares if you do it with a semi custom stevens .223 or a custom Surgeon .338 Lapua. The point is your out shooting.
To The original poster
I would love to get into the .338 Lapua game too but it's just not cheap. The things I would change over time on the Remington would in my opinion be spending too much money on that rifle. Save your pennies if you are serious and do it right. If you just want to test the water and try one the Remington will not be beat for price.
Best of luck
A gopher is only about 2.5" wide. To hit that regularily at 1000yds is perilously close to world record territory. To hit such a target that moves randomly, changes shape constantly and blends in to the background would be closer to a miracle. So I have my doubts about the veracity of such a claim.
To hit a target like that once in a while is a very different issue, where the rules of probability play a big factor.
Obtunded/ATR/Mystic (along with others) are respected members of the community, and have lots of wisdom for all to use at there own free will.
If I had a $5000+ 6mmBR it had better hit gophers at 1000 yards all day long too!