Civilian semi-auto Heckler & Koch G36 and future models
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The SL8 US parts were made in Germany and some small parts in the US. They were assembled in the US. The US version was discontinued a while back. The SL8 and USC are still on the HK Europe site.
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Did you read any of this thread before posting, because the question you asked has already been answered.....
The rest of this post is not directed at you Alpha-niner:
I have never seen so much disinformation posted about any firearms company but only when it is about Heckler & Koch is the manufacture being discussed or written about, it is ridiculous in regards to the amount of mistruths that are pumped out about this company. I guess that is the price of being number 1, and the only way many companies can compete is by slagging the competitions.
HK supports the NRA and many other various Firearms organizations, they are very firearm ownership friendly, and more than they should be at least publicly considering their position with Germans laws they face and the attitude in Germany that was mostly imposed by the "USA" above all other nations.
How many BS rumors have I herd about Carrier tilt problems rehashed by say M4carbine.net and their Mods or about the G36, and of course the infamous and BS article by some dumb US citizen about HK "You Suck & WE Hate You" crap that is feed on these forums constantly by the band wagon jumpers...
A little tidbit for you guys, most of this lack of HK product availability in many regards is because of external political pressures and the internal issues in Germany actually take a back seat in most regards....
As for the G36 it was the unmatched rifle in regards to performance prior to (911/War on terror) and in many ways influenced the XM8(now defunct) SCAR,ACR,ARX100 etc etc, Either way it would be awesome to get some of these in if they decide to do, all be "calling Irun guns" if it becomes available in the US for sure...
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Hello from south of the border. I am very interested in your thread here. I'm a member over at HKPro. I'm in the middle of a SL8 to G36K conversion. I have not seen or heard of HK making a semi US G36. It would make a lot of sense to do that since people down here are paying over $3000 for one of these custom creations for HK to do this. You can't find a MR556 right now unless it is on Gunbroker for less than $4000. If that rumor is true I might ought to hold up my conversion. I was about to mail my SBR paper work to the ATF.
That's just a G36C with what is commonly referred to as an FBI trigger group. (Safe, Semi)
If you were to pop a 3 position trigger group in that gun, it would be a machine gun. Under US law, even with the FBI safe semi trigger installed, it would still be considered a machine gun because it can be readily restored into a select fire weapon.
If they make a legal US version of the G36, they would have to have a certain number of parts made in the US (you can't assemble certain firearms with more than ten imported parts) I'm guessing any semi auto US G36 would also have an SL8 type bolt carrier, and a receiver that prevents insertion of a real G36 bolt carrier.
G36's are awesome rifles. I've owned and sold four of them in the last several years: a G36C, two G36Ks, and a G36P. I've also owned a UMP. Here's what I paid for those who want some real data as to what they pull on the Canadian market:
G36C: $8000, AC date code
G36P: $8500 (unfired and with the dual optic and bipod), AC date code
G36K: $6300, AE date code
G36K: $8500, AE date code
UMP9: $8200 (unfired), AF date code
I tried selling in the $10K range on a number of occasions and never got an takers but lots of tire kickers (many of you may remember my WTS posts), and in the end I got about what I paid, plus or minus a few hundred. I haven't seen one with anything newer than an AF date code and most are AC (2002) or AE (2004). They've changed hands a number of times in most cases, and I think there are very few left with low round counts. I love them, but they aren't worth that kind of money, at least not to me. Once you get it in your hand, shoot it a bit, and then reflect on the $8000+ you put into it...... well, you get the picture.
G36C: $8000, AC date code
G36P: $8500 (unfired and with the dual optic and bipod), AC date code
G36K: $6300, AE date code
G36K: $8500, AE date code
UMP9: $8200 (unfired), AF date code
I tried selling in the $10K range on a number of occasions and never got an takers but lots of tire kickers (many of you may remember my WTS posts), and in the end I got about what I paid, plus or minus a few hundred. I haven't seen one with anything newer than an AF date code and most are AC (2002) or AE (2004). They've changed hands a number of times in most cases, and I think there are very few left with low round counts. I love them, but they aren't worth that kind of money, at least not to me. Once you get it in your hand, shoot it a bit, and then reflect on the $8000+ you put into it...... well, you get the picture.
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Thats what I thought, for that big pricetag it is quite underwhelming. I was surprised by the unergonomic cheekpiece
Well the funny thing is that most people still stuck their image to the "oringal" G36 setup
which is 20 years old. The newer G36KV and G36 IDZ made a lot of upgrade
and solved most problem people were complaint
Adjustable stock with adjustable cheek raiser.
new Mag release new bolt release. Many new aluminum rail system
with low profile and build in back up sight
The new aluminum foregrip increase heat transfer
also the new Zeiss optical design for g36 which I think is better than ACOG TA01/31
which is 20 years old. The newer G36KV and G36 IDZ made a lot of upgrade
and solved most problem people were complaint
Adjustable stock with adjustable cheek raiser.
new Mag release new bolt release. Many new aluminum rail system
with low profile and build in back up sight
The new aluminum foregrip increase heat transfer
also the new Zeiss optical design for g36 which I think is better than ACOG TA01/31
The G36's we have in Canada are for collector purposes and little more than, they are rare and that is all you can legitimately have them for, I cannot see any reason you would want to shoot them like any other gun because they can not really be replaced easily and affordable. If you have money to burn for little to know benefit then it may not be a concern, but even still getting parts is difficult and expensive as well. The G36 series or variants last very long and in many areas out perform much of the competitions but still have their drawbacks, I prefer the HK416 variants over the G36 because you have most of the plus of both and little to zero of the negatives.
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That being said a Non-restricted G36 would interest me more than a Swiss arms rifle....Although the newer versions are more esthetically pleasing to my eyes though...
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That being said a Non-restricted G36 would interest me more than a Swiss arms rifle....Although the newer versions are more esthetically pleasing to my eyes though...
High end SL8 conversions in the United States using plastic welded rear G36 stubs after all of the parts and labor (and the cost of the original SL8) run anywhere from $4,000 to $6,000 USD.
Here's mine:
It started out with a TN/SW setup, then the HDPS stock block and finally a fuse job by Tom Bostic. I sent it out to have a G36K barrel installed along with a permanently attached flash hider to keep the barrel length above 16" to comply with US law. Waiting to get it back and I think I'll stop changing it this time. Hehe.
Any rough idea on how many true G36 rifles are in Canada like the ones you have had? I think it's awesome you can own them. In the US we can only have the SL8 conversions.
I started the thread over at HKPro this time. No one knows for sure if this is going to happen. Rumor is we will know Shot Sow 2014. We will have to wait and see. If it doesn't happen I need to figure out how I can get a SL8-4 imported from Canada. I really would like to have one that the magwell does not have to be modified. Rear stub fuse not to concerned about.
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The few guys that have done it, got Wolverine Supplies to export the guns for them, so shoot them an Email and see if they have any in stock to export to you. I have heard it's a 50/50 as to whether they are accepted for import into the USA, there are no problems exporting firearms out of Canada.
