Colt M4??

urbaneddy said:
right..................... I'll believe when I see it "available" for purchase on the website. These rifles have restricted wrote all over them, which is a shame. Sorry, I shouldn't be so negative, but you can't rely on the govt/RCMP to hold there word about anything anymore.
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I hate the truth!
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Brocolt said:
THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN.... and I can't see it happening, yes I would love to see the change and be able to hunt varmints with it. BUT if the others like the Armi Jager AP74 & AP15 are restricted for being a look a like. So will this new Colt M4 .22cal

And look at the MP5/ GSG-5 look a like .22cal that came out last year, why is this a prohib. Get a grip we are all dreaming here
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I'm not sure why people are still confused about this...... The AP74 and Mitchell look alikes are restricted because they are SPECIFICALLY NAMED IN THE OIC BY THE GOVERNMENT. They were never examined by anyone and determined to be "varients". Those that wrote the OIC looked at them in a catalog, determined they looked scary, and added them to the list by name. This decision was NOT based on any objectve reality, mechanical features, ability to accept parts fom the real weapons etc...

In order for new firearms to be determined to be "varients" they (or apparently the marketing literature) have to be examined by the RCMP,at which point they articulate the reason (bs or not) that the determination has been made.

In the case of AR15 type rifles, they seem to be of the attitude that if the gun in question will accept a standard AR upper, it's an AR15 varient.

Though, none of this really matters with the BS the RCMP have been pulling lately. They'll make it up as they go, I'm sure.
 
HeVGunner said:
The AP74 and Mitchell look alikes are restricted because they are SPECIFICALLY NAMED IN THE OIC BY THE GOVERNMENT. They were never examined by anyone and determined to be "varients".
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Bingo, legally they should be classed as non-restricted (then again so should most of the GSG-5 models). However if the RCMP chose to "review" them it could take years for them to make a decision, and maybe a couple more to fight the court case if the chose to label it as an AR-15 variant :(
 
This is a copy of post on Rimfire Central.

I just looked up the new Colt's M4 in .22lr on RSR Wholesale's web sight (only accessibly by licensed dealers) and they are listing the cheapest version at $498.75 US & the priciest version at $588.75US. WHOLESALE ORDER PRICE. That's approx. 380.83 EU to 449.55 EU. They do not have any in stock yet.
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KDX said:
Under the brand name COLT the legendary models of the COLT M4/ M16 series are produced in Germany by CARL WALTHER in caliber .22 l.r. in TOP quality. Same as on the original the upper and lower receiver is made of high-quality aluminium as well as the milled Picatinny-style rails of the different fore-end variants.
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There, I've bolded the parts that will be used in the classification decision... Right or wrong, I'd say a snowball in a damned afterlife has a better chance then this becoming Non-Res...

Sorry to be a party pooper.

Of course I'd be elated if I was wrong...
 
daroccot said:
There, I've bolded the parts that will be used in the classification decision... Right or wrong, I'd say a snowball in a damned afterlife has a better chance then this becoming Non-Res...

Sorry to be a party pooper.

Of course I'd be elated if I was wrong...
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WINNER!

Dream on guys.
 
I got a question ! what part of an ar-15 makes it restricted?
I was told its the lower right.

Well if this 22lr has a different lower and cant be swapped with a ar-15 lower, is that grounds for a non-restricted classification?
 
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red_noir said:
I got a question ! what part of an ar-15 makes it restricted?
I was told its the lower right.

Well if this 22lr has a different lower and cant be swapped with a ar-15 lower, is that grounds for a non-restricted classification?
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Reason would dictate so... again I stress reason, but look at gun laws and tell me the reasons of some rules...
 
thats what I figured !

well then its a semi auto .22lr that's only commonality with a ar-15/m4/m16 is looks. if that's enough to make it restricted I think that's silly !

I play airsoft aswell and have m4's ak's and glocks there not restricted??? and they are 1:1 replicas
 
red_noir said:
thats what I figured !

well then its a semi auto .22lr that's only commonality with a ar-15/m4/m16 is looks. if that's enough to make it restricted I think that's silly !

I play airsoft aswell and have m4's ak's and glocks there not restricted??? and they are 1:1 replicas
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Don't mean to sound Granny Panty Nanny State on you, but owning prohibited devices such as prohibted airsoft guns by OIC can in a sequence of very unlucky circumstances get your actual firearms taken from you and possibly place a firearm prohibition order on you.

I didn't make the law I am only repeating it.
 
red_noir said:
they are not prohibited !!

airsoftcanada.com

read up
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Any airsoft gun deemed by Order In Council to be prohibited is prohibited. That includes any airsoft gun that is 1:1 replica of the real thing, and anything the CFO or CBSA include in the list. There are LOTS of airsoft guns that are not on this list.

Having routinely counciled people on this question for the past 10 years I am very familiar with this issue.
 
oh, I must be wrong. thank you for setting me straight !

you should read this link if so inclined

https://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=23034


Im not trying to be rude or misdirect this thread but your preatty much telling me Ive been breaking the law for the past 5 years so has hundreds of other people I play with including cops, and that paint ball feilds that host airsoft events are also breaking the law.
 
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red_noir said:
oh, I must be wrong. thank you for setting me straight !

you should read this link if so inclined

https://airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=23034


Im not trying to be rude or misdirect this thread but your preatty much telling me Ive been breaking the law for the past 5 years so has hundreds of other people I play with including cops, and that paint ball feilds that host airsoft events are also breaking the law.
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Not a problem. Misinformation is quite rampant on the Internets and sometimes people need to be set straight.

Seeing as this will become a discussion on airsoft which is not welcome on CGN and would also hijack this thread if you want to discuss with me in PM the proper legalities of prohibited devices, I am all ears.

Again, having done what I do for a living for the past 10 years, I am very familiar with importation laws, possession, application, use, effect, and interpretation of owing a prohibited airsoft device. I have consulted with other individuals, gun clubs, the CBSA directly, etc. on this subject ad nauseum. No offence to you but I don't care what other people do, have, own, use, or keep. I know what the law is and I know what can and cannot be possessed or imported in this area so as to minimize my already (an every other gun owners) antiquated and limited firearms ownership rights.

I have said this before here if you want to do something or own something that may impede, contradict, challenge, or antagonize either the law, the LE's or the CFO's, be my guest. Just don't make it a problem for me or other gun owners et al somewhere down the line. Do what you please, just don't pee on my parade.
 
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