Concealed Carry in Canada....
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TheGamerXxX
CGN frequent flyer
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- North of the 49, Manitoba
I think the best chance of getting off-range ATT's lies with getting handgun hunting sorted out. Once people are hunting with handguns in the bush and nothing happens, then widening the scope of the ATT to include all wilderness areas would be the next logical step.
Mark
That would be nice - I'd love having a long barrel Taurus Judge with .410's in my backpack to take care of close range wondering partridges.
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- Some days I really wonder ?
Lets start out by giving guys like me & many others a 12(6) status.
Agreed, because without that, you aren't going to be very well concealed, when you carry.
I totally agree ! this 12 (6) thing is such a stupid thing ! I wish someday someone at the parliament will wake up on this !
Bah! Not true. As someone who has legally CCW'ed in the States, I've successfully concealed a full size CZ-75B on my person in summer. A good IWB holster, a good gun belt, and any loose cover garment will do the trick. It is not the barrel length which makes a challenge for CCW, it is primarily the grip length and secondarily the width of the firearm. Moving properly so the weapon (especially the grip) doesn't print is also an important skill in CCW.
the ironic part is that quote isnt even true. he is confusing mean with median.
if it happens, i wouldnt like to see any restrictions on people with mental health issues.
if it's based on our right to defend ourselves, that right should not be discriminatory on anything other than recent severe violent offenses.
if it's based on our right to defend ourselves, that right should not be discriminatory on anything other than recent severe violent offenses.
I don't want CCW in Canada, you are welcome to try and make me move...
I would however recommend that you take your own advise and move down south, the land of the free
What is the reasoning behind your stance?
You don't need it so it shouldn't be allowed at all?
You don't need it, but won't be against other getting CCW permits?
Or do you simply don't trust Canadians with firearms in the general public?
Curious minds want to know.
Just out of curiosity would somebody who committed several murders 30 years ago qualify since the murders weren't recent? From what I understand convicted felons are barred from owning firearms in some States in the US. How about a mentally ill individual who has a long history of depression and attempted suicides? OK to carry in the fantasy Canada you envision?
I am not in love with the laws as they now stand for gun ownership etc but do you really believe there is any political will from any political party or from any significant group in Canada who want or would champion CCW in Canada? Like really?
Given our falling crime rates across Canada, rates that have been dropping since the 1990's, you would have a difficult time arguing need or convincing anyone that unfettered access to firearms would be in the societies interest. Just saying you want something isn't going to get you a free lunch or CCW.
Give the body politic a reason to support CCW and as a suggestion you might start with a convincing argument for "need". No politician is going to support CCW without a counter to an argument that would suggest an increase in gun play could occur with the granting of CCW. In the absence of need or the perceived need for CCW you are going to get nowhere and nowhere is where we are at because there is no thought among the general public there is a need for CCW.
Take Care
Bob
To demonstrate that people can actually go to the moon and back, you use the American experience.
To demonstrate that public safety is not adversely affected by responsible people carrying to protect life, you use the American experience.
-- CLW.45
You have to be kidding! Do you really think the Canadian public believes you are safer in the US with CCW then you are in Canada without CCW? Toronto is the same size as Chicago, one has less than 50 murders a year the other over 500. Never mind Illinois does not have CCW folks won't care.
First I doubt many Canadians believe it is necessary to carry a weapon to feel safe in the US. I have been travelling down there most my adult life and yet to have ever felt a need to defend myself or carry a firearm. I know perception is reality. Americans may have a perception they need to carry to feel safe in their country. how many Canadians would say the same thing about the US - my opinion very few. Fewer Canadians yet would feel the need to carry in this country. Hell shoot a bear that is attacking a human and the tree huggers are all out in force demanding charges be laid against the killer of the bear.
Lastly CCW and crime rates are about as connected as Obama is to the Keystone Pipeline in my view so you are back to arguing need for CCW. Tuff political sell. If you can come up with a solid argument for need I'll stand with you on the platform but man I just don't see it. Getting a wilderness permit for guys up here when they are fishing in the back country is a non starter and and there is a case of a demonstrable need.
Best
Bob
