CQB+Camo+Newbie=discouraged

The "you have not earned it" line seems like BS, unless you are of the type to tell stories of your classified sniper mission behind enemy lines.

But I can understand the reasons for the IPSC rule on Camo.
 
jollyroger said:
haha, this whole thing reminds me of the numerous times we've caught d*uchebags at the bar wearing canadian dog tags hanging out like jewlery, or airborne t-shirts. and of course when asked every last one was a sniper lol. Same people sh!tting bricks when called out on it.:D
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...I have a couple 2 Commando shirts and a airborne shirt that some posers wore into a bar, that didn't leave with them.

Just be careful to which extent you wear your cammo.. I don't mind seeing people wear the cam of the soldiers of their country. It's nice to see that some people care enough, because most people don't. What really chaps peoples asses is when people are wearing that uniform "AS" a soldier.. ie: badges, etc, or pretending to be a soldier. That's when us crusty bastards usually stand up make ourselves known.

This halloween my cousin asked for a pair of my old combats to dress up as a soldier. I was honored to be able to let him do that, in fact I let him keep the uniform because I saw how his face lit up in it.

I think the line is drawn when people take the uniform past the point of respectfully displaying it, to trying to use it for their own gain in some means. If you didn't earn it, don't wear it is right... But the uniform and the flag belong to all Canadians. Badges, citations, medals, patches, and logos are the sole property of those that fought under it and it's name... and earned it.

It's a small world, and no matter where you are, if you are disgracing the uniform, or displaying something that you shouldn't be prepared to justify it or you may not leave with it.

As for wearing Cam for CQB.. leave it at home. I'd much rather wear a pair of cargos and a t-shirt. Most uniforms blow ass for comfort. Most people are interested in making a visual statement rather than running practical gear.
 
Perhaps the actual shoot is happening on a CF Base? If that is the case I know I wouldn't want alot of people wearing cadpat who weren't in the military. Could make it a nightmare determining from a distance who is range staff, range control or base personel. Just my 2 cents.
 
I think we should define 'camo'. If you want to wear woodland or multicam etc, who cares? It's your right to be 'that guy' if you so choose. Big deal.

I have however been to a match where some dude was wearing full Arid Cadpat...that's a different story IMHO. That is a uniform. He was not a serving member, never was, and it just bugged me. I still have my Arid's but you won't catch me wearing them. It can be a touchy subject. Wearing something like that to a civi range is silly enough, on a CF base is RTFO. You would be looking for trouble.
 
Who are we Bloods and Crips? Its just print. Drop the medals. insignia, etc those are pretty personal but as for the print itself? Who cares. DMcFaul is right on. Foxhound makes good points but unless its a rule of the course/Club/etc... have at er. I personally am not a fan of camo unless its *pat cam. Or unless its winter cam. If you can buy it from 5.11 or any of the other retailer type companies, I don't see it as uniform. Especially not until Badges, citations, medals, patches, and logos etc(As Faul said) are applied.
 
Canadian Forces Member - I do not wear any type of camo to the range. Instead, I wear a grey style Cargo pant for pockets, and a suitable sweater/T####/Jacket.

Soldiers are trained (among other things) to effectively kill people (yes, that will open another thread, however, those are the simplest terms). When I attend a civilian range, I attend as a civilian - I do not kill people as a civilian, therefore will never attempt to even resemble anyone who does.

Same ####, different piles.

camo has no place at a civilian range, its purpose is for concealment, figure breakup, and deception - none of the above apply to civilian ranges.

As a CFMember, I wouldn't frown upon the guy who wears camo because he hasn't earned, that doesn't matter - I only ask why?

I wear Cadpat to train and prepare for Combat - I wear NORMAL clothing to attend a Range...
 
Why wear stripe shirts or checkers or solid colors or blacks or plaid or snakeskin or leather. Who gets to decide what normal is? The answer is why not wear it if you like the style. Some do, some don't. Some are indifferent. No insults intended but I wouldn't say it has NO place at the range. Its part of the gun culture at this point. I remember a time when people thought cargo pants made you look too military. Now its widely accepted as normal clothing. On a side note, I am sure a lot of non-mil type peoples idolize their countries soldiers. Why wouldn't they want to look like their peers?
 
JaysonCraig said:
Why wear stripe shirts or checkers or solid colors or blacks or plaid or snakeskin or leather. Who gets to decide what normal is? The answer is why not wear it if you like the style. Some do, some don't. Some are indifferent. No insults intended but I wouldn't say it has NO place at the range. Its part of the gun culture at this point. I remember a time when people thought cargo pants made you look too military. Now its widely accepted as normal clothing. On a side note, I am sure a lot of non-mil type peoples idolize their countries soldiers. Why wouldn't they want to look like their peers?
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My gripe isn't with with you wearing a pattern. I'm talking about wearing a UNIFORM. When you wear a current, issued uniform, especially one that folks wear on a two way range, your pushing buttons. See the difference?
 
hugehodge83 said:
Wearing camo at the range is like wearing a NASCAR race suit to drive to work... you COULD... but most likely you wont be going 300kph on the highway making only left turns... Its the same principal that I apply to a gun... if you dont NEED it... dont use it... (my opinion)
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same principle that the government uses :puke:
if you are not a member to a range, give up your guns :confused:. that sucks.

wear whatever you want, live free and make your own choices of what you put on your body. if you want to wear hot pink, go ahead. i wear digital camo pants when i go shoosting. f-em all if they don't like it.

f-em. right in the rear where it hurts :evil:
 
florin79 said:
same principle that the government uses :puke:
if you are not a member to a range, give up your guns :confused:. that sucks.

wear whatever you want, live free and make your own choices of what you put on your body. if you want to wear hot pink, go ahead. i wear digital camo pants when i go shoosting. f-em all if they don't like it.

f-em. right in the rear where it hurts :evil:
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Uh...err....:confused:
 
Recce21 said:
I don't know about you, but I had to wear the old OD on my basic! It was a treat when I was actually issued a CADPAT tacvest and not the old webbing. Little did I know....:D
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ha, yeah, i had some od's, i was more referring to the present. i was thinking someone would reference od combats when i was typing it
 
I have heard similar reflections from some people about cadpat being used on a Civi range. I thought it was quite ridiculous.

I don't wear any type of camo during 3 gun....I wear basic drab clothing that cleans easily and doesn't bother me if it gets damaged/stained.

I would never wear cadpat to a CF range....but I do think its sad to suggest that because a person hasn't served, they don't have the right. Serving in the armed forces doesn't give you the right to pass judgement on other people or govern the type of clothing they wear to a 3 gun match.

CF fight for several reasons, a primarily one I would imagine is freedom....yet certain individuals will come back and try to restrict the actions of others? :confused:
 
Onagoth said:
I have heard similar reflections from some people about cadpat being used on a Civi range. I thought it was quite ridiculous.

I don't wear any type of camo during 3 gun....I wear basic drab clothing that cleans easily and doesn't bother me if it gets damaged/stained.

I would never wear cadpat to a CF range....but I do think its sad to suggest that because a person hasn't served, they don't have the right. Serving in the armed forces doesn't give you the right to pass judgement on other people or govern the type of clothing they wear to a 3 gun match.

CF fight for several reasons, a primarily one I would imagine is freedom....yet certain individuals will come back and try to restrict the actions of others? :confused:
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'try to restrict the actions of others'? Please. Real Cadpat, be it Temp or Arid is in itself controlled, (and no, not by me!:rolleyes:) It's a UNIFORM!!!

So, allow me to clarify-

1. Camo at the range? Why not. Who cares? It's like putting a folding stock on a fighting rifle. It's your God given right right to exercise poor judgement.
2. Wearing a UNIFORM that you are not authorized to wear, that is currently in service and is recognized as such by the public, that's a diferent story!
 
jollyroger said:
haha, this whole thing reminds me of the numerous times we've caught d*uchebags at the bar wearing canadian dog tags hanging out like jewlery, or airborne t-shirts. and of course when asked every last one was a sniper lol. Same people sh!tting bricks when called out on it.:D

more on topic... i'll be getting out of the army soon and if someone were to give me crap about wearing camo as a civilian on a shooting range (not that i would go out of my way to) ...i would be telling them where to go and how to get there. screw them as long as its not significant of some specific achievement (regimental stuff, jump wings, etc.), who cares.
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I snipe rodents, does that count? :D
 
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