CQBR / Mk18 Mod1 Clone thread - Show us your clones!
- Thread starter Thorvald
- Start date
Yeah it's a 600V, worked out since it's more appropriate for the task and it was the only one I could source in tan at the time.
I'm trying to track down one of the Surefire 3-Prong flash hiders now. Got a KAC 600m rear sight on it and threw an Accu-Wedge in it because why not...
I'm trying to track down one of the Surefire 3-Prong flash hiders now. Got a KAC 600m rear sight on it and threw an Accu-Wedge in it because why not...
- Location
- Richmond, BC
I got the last few components to my Mk18 Mod 0 build yesterday. A Knight's Armament Company (KAC) M4QD muzzle compensator and a genuine CQD rear sling mount. And these two items really were a testament to my OCD because really, why do I need a flash hider that costs $129.99 when I have a regular Colt A2 flash hider that will do the job just fine? Why do I need to search the ends of the earth for a sling mount the factory one is just fine? Because that's what builders do, lol!
They have to get every possible detail correct in order to be satisfied. I know that this build still isn't perfect, but I don't think I can do much more short of legalizing suppressors so I can use the corncob, and while I'm at it, legalize automatic fire. Well, there's the Stag Arms barrel and FSB, but it may be a while before my OCD really bugs me about that detail.
https://1.bp.########.com/-hVhY30MvpsU/WED6iOkutYI/AAAAAAAAk8g/fJzInPCG9oULp_LwNog5LpmGxcU9GpWDACPcB/s1600/PC012644.JPG
Anyway, on to the parts. I ordered the KAC M4QD from One Shot Tactical for $129. I found this one a hard pill to swallow because I really can't tell how improved it is over the regular A2 flash hider. It has a notch in the lip to time the KAC supressor, and it has grooves all around the circumference, but aside from these details, I can't tell what else is really different.
https://3.bp.########.com/-V65UaMmdoSw/WED6iIDjUyI/AAAAAAAAk8g/yfO3JC_69_sMAudqp3GGuFjgGtuYTOg-gCPcB/s1600/PC012661.JPG
It was nicely packaged for a muzzle device. Inside the box came the M4QD packed in a separate plastic baggie from the spacers, which was also packaged in it's own container, along with some instructions. All my other muzzle devices required crush washers, so this was a first for me.
https://2.bp.########.com/-46Tcq93mB0U/WED6iFp4HzI/AAAAAAAAk8g/_9PR3jIcggYNpM2AGzLXLgDdVC13NHC0wCPcB/s1600/PC012662.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-4YaufmgiwLo/WED6iE4Si0I/AAAAAAAAk8g/G49e6OrhX0gr4ercCBIWz5WK5ZT67jzGwCPcB/s1600/PC012663.JPG
The KAC unti is a tad taller than the Colt A2.
https://2.bp.########.com/-pqqMIOncp5s/WED6iMQkaMI/AAAAAAAAk8g/5VZ-BCvi58se93dlLyrtcXfGFGBV59vvgCPcB/s1600/PC012666.JPG
https://3.bp.########.com/-blkeSbxy8Xc/WED6iHsOBlI/AAAAAAAAk8g/Ze1xPiRFEn8nzld4xPMRzg83y6doWvX-ACPcB/s1600/PC012656.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-Wp16ZW1nTSo/WED6iKVs9RI/AAAAAAAAk8g/cFE7Fcjnsn4fKR0G8mfaj1zxQD6nVMXGQCPcB/s1600/PC012657.JPG
https://2.bp.########.com/-6auzPKN4k1Q/WED6iGfN49I/AAAAAAAAk8g/gT-XthB4QFUepH7S1qifIDJe-jFZgtO4wCPcB/s1600/PC012658.JPG
https://2.bp.########.com/-lO1bipnocCo/WED6iNr1t6I/AAAAAAAAk8g/UqjRn9DrniY9-XxsU9bwD02vfzTuoYKwwCPcB/s1600/PC012659.JPG
The installation was fairly simple, throw the upper in a vice block, crank off the A2, and figure out how many spacers you need to time the KAC one.
https://1.bp.########.com/-o-eP9DrXogc/WED6iKcGv6I/AAAAAAAAk8g/2RCsGOXeriAvQmUlDy9QsxDgIqVnWj0pACPcB/s1600/PC012667.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-5X7EZJHBbOs/WED6iBNXoSI/AAAAAAAAk8g/rymaumCI1Vo7KWPACIhrfEfrxBNnp1U6QCPcB/s1600/PC012669.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-5X7EZJHBbOs/WED6iBNXoSI/AAAAAAAAk8g/rymaumCI1Vo7KWPACIhrfEfrxBNnp1U6QCPcB/s1600/PC012669.JPG
Next was the genuine CQD rear sling mount. Don't ask me because it was a one off and it will probably never happen again, lol! I had messed around with a fake airsoft one simply because these are damn near unobtainium in Canada. Albiet the airsoft one was made of some sort of magical Chinese super steel, but the problem was it was missing the indexing detent, so theoretically, it could slip out of timing and the result would be you would lose the selector switch detent spring, and you would have a bad day.
https://4.bp.########.com/-gQ5b5WLZS44/WED6iFoQ8mI/AAAAAAAAk8g/neZAj1lW4PIwVq6KRgsGa3JA0guLGo4AgCPcB/s1600/PC012648.JPG
https://3.bp.########.com/-WdyHD9EHa-M/WED6iF7dK8I/AAAAAAAAk8g/lfqwqEhp1H8ciCi1hIxmZdi6P9_MAffpwCPcB/s1600/PC012649.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-jTlMzYbSSnU/WED6iEaqnRI/AAAAAAAAk8g/DYmfNBV3M1k48ccQjlajQ60KJbwjetPmwCPcB/s1600/PC012650.JPG
A comparison with the airsoft one on the left, and the real deal on the right. I haven't even fired this rifle yet because I had this fake thing on and I was waiting out for a real one to pop up.
"OULLCIROLE WARRAR"
"CLOSE QUARTERS OEFENSE"
Lol! That's what's written on the clone. It's supposed to say "FULL CIRCLE WARRIOR" "CLOSE QUARTERS DEFENSE"
https://3.bp.########.com/-5yfTvoDOGs0/WED6iPlvATI/AAAAAAAAk8g/MdtG49TTL-8vCARR2REDP3TpkPtmb4LVgCPcB/s1600/PC012651.JPG
As you can see on the real thing, there is a detent that sits into the lower receiver, ensuring that it doesn't rotate. The airsoft version does not have this.
https://4.bp.########.com/-HZU8kcAqYYc/WED6iA-0enI/AAAAAAAAk8g/dDUtUrqUy-8k6JcB-PBzs8iMYtWF9RWnwCPcB/s1600/PC012652.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-XwZVgPq3GBE/WED6iFDsqPI/AAAAAAAAk8g/COxFysZb7TwSbWMJgt6jzJnViutSQ_u8QCPcB/s1600/PC012653.JPG
Fairly simple installation. Some people will stake it in place, but I'm perfectly fine not doing this and just torquing down the castle nut.
https://4.bp.########.com/-31beLNmPmpQ/WED6iJHmPiI/AAAAAAAAk8g/piVra7ketKkQRS0PpOM-G5sJqL9Dyv1KgCPcB/s1600/PC012677.JPG
These are the best photos I could muster this time of day, poor lighting in my laundry room. Anyway, at a glance, it's pretty hard for a casual observer to tell that just swapped out the muzzle device and sling plate, but it would bug me until the end of time if I ddin't do it, haha!
https://1.bp.########.com/-EFobWn_wmLQ/WED6iEpUSbI/AAAAAAAAk8g/ahKPyEb850YpqBH4v3xkKAhffKA5lTgOwCPcB/s1600/PC012685.JPG
https://1.bp.########.com/-XQMDbMtwypg/WED6iPg6vEI/AAAAAAAAk8g/Fh4GGtPQhgIJ-YFTO_7qdc1LCyFDWXtvACPcB/s1600/PC012690.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-ZMm1T2PzSeE/WED6iBVsIFI/AAAAAAAAk8g/RhzZkqe0Vuw5FkhQr3ekMQN0nB3JdEkVQCPcB/s1600/PC012691.JPG
https://3.bp.########.com/-QGC3m-zDxTs/WED6iLVlIkI/AAAAAAAAk8g/OEpizq_hHN4AVSecb8BznivJQvkdve-awCPcB/s1600/PC012698.JPG
https://2.bp.########.com/-XOz0E02R-Gg/WED6iGZYQ5I/AAAAAAAAk8g/_syWk85AkUoIymKpMtnb1IM50R481BSjwCPcB/s1600/PC012699.JPG
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https://1.bp.########.com/-KohCHCWEaes/WED6iD8hzZI/AAAAAAAAk8g/g48H8UnGKmU2eEAsHXjTNfDQDC_Do4MHQCPcB/s1600/PC012706.JPG
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https://4.bp.########.com/-Ed45dFmXM7w/WED6iCsFF_I/AAAAAAAAk8g/qeRly-d0eDAyq_dtDmJnxhLX4hWpk0VlgCPcB/s1600/PC012708.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-xwrUgJkayqI/WED6iMNt0WI/AAAAAAAAk8g/pRhROfhXDBMa8MMOp25vJXzHZI9Lk_d0QCPcB/s1600/PC012715.JPG
https://3.bp.########.com/-88TdxTOdO5U/WED6iClbhVI/AAAAAAAAk8g/N0f2GIlWIQAAXvmfVGIGrajufhSNOVRIACPcB/s1600/PC012716.JPG
https://2.bp.########.com/-UdGWu4VENDo/WED6iPL7OxI/AAAAAAAAk8g/oiD2H3pw1sAT8QK0gXgnyFcT57myYODUACPcB/s1600/PC012718.JPG
Now that this project is done, what to do next? I know I've always wanted a Mk12, but I know I shouldn't, lol!
Anyway, this was a fun build for me, the thrill of the hunt in trying to track down various components I guess, just hope it shoots, haha!
They have to get every possible detail correct in order to be satisfied. I know that this build still isn't perfect, but I don't think I can do much more short of legalizing suppressors so I can use the corncob, and while I'm at it, legalize automatic fire. Well, there's the Stag Arms barrel and FSB, but it may be a while before my OCD really bugs me about that detail.
https://1.bp.########.com/-hVhY30MvpsU/WED6iOkutYI/AAAAAAAAk8g/fJzInPCG9oULp_LwNog5LpmGxcU9GpWDACPcB/s1600/PC012644.JPG
Anyway, on to the parts. I ordered the KAC M4QD from One Shot Tactical for $129. I found this one a hard pill to swallow because I really can't tell how improved it is over the regular A2 flash hider. It has a notch in the lip to time the KAC supressor, and it has grooves all around the circumference, but aside from these details, I can't tell what else is really different.
https://3.bp.########.com/-V65UaMmdoSw/WED6iIDjUyI/AAAAAAAAk8g/yfO3JC_69_sMAudqp3GGuFjgGtuYTOg-gCPcB/s1600/PC012661.JPG
It was nicely packaged for a muzzle device. Inside the box came the M4QD packed in a separate plastic baggie from the spacers, which was also packaged in it's own container, along with some instructions. All my other muzzle devices required crush washers, so this was a first for me.
https://2.bp.########.com/-46Tcq93mB0U/WED6iFp4HzI/AAAAAAAAk8g/_9PR3jIcggYNpM2AGzLXLgDdVC13NHC0wCPcB/s1600/PC012662.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-4YaufmgiwLo/WED6iE4Si0I/AAAAAAAAk8g/G49e6OrhX0gr4ercCBIWz5WK5ZT67jzGwCPcB/s1600/PC012663.JPG
The KAC unti is a tad taller than the Colt A2.
https://2.bp.########.com/-pqqMIOncp5s/WED6iMQkaMI/AAAAAAAAk8g/5VZ-BCvi58se93dlLyrtcXfGFGBV59vvgCPcB/s1600/PC012666.JPG
https://3.bp.########.com/-blkeSbxy8Xc/WED6iHsOBlI/AAAAAAAAk8g/Ze1xPiRFEn8nzld4xPMRzg83y6doWvX-ACPcB/s1600/PC012656.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-Wp16ZW1nTSo/WED6iKVs9RI/AAAAAAAAk8g/cFE7Fcjnsn4fKR0G8mfaj1zxQD6nVMXGQCPcB/s1600/PC012657.JPG
https://2.bp.########.com/-6auzPKN4k1Q/WED6iGfN49I/AAAAAAAAk8g/gT-XthB4QFUepH7S1qifIDJe-jFZgtO4wCPcB/s1600/PC012658.JPG
https://2.bp.########.com/-lO1bipnocCo/WED6iNr1t6I/AAAAAAAAk8g/UqjRn9DrniY9-XxsU9bwD02vfzTuoYKwwCPcB/s1600/PC012659.JPG
The installation was fairly simple, throw the upper in a vice block, crank off the A2, and figure out how many spacers you need to time the KAC one.
https://1.bp.########.com/-o-eP9DrXogc/WED6iKcGv6I/AAAAAAAAk8g/2RCsGOXeriAvQmUlDy9QsxDgIqVnWj0pACPcB/s1600/PC012667.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-5X7EZJHBbOs/WED6iBNXoSI/AAAAAAAAk8g/rymaumCI1Vo7KWPACIhrfEfrxBNnp1U6QCPcB/s1600/PC012669.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-5X7EZJHBbOs/WED6iBNXoSI/AAAAAAAAk8g/rymaumCI1Vo7KWPACIhrfEfrxBNnp1U6QCPcB/s1600/PC012669.JPG
Next was the genuine CQD rear sling mount. Don't ask me because it was a one off and it will probably never happen again, lol! I had messed around with a fake airsoft one simply because these are damn near unobtainium in Canada. Albiet the airsoft one was made of some sort of magical Chinese super steel, but the problem was it was missing the indexing detent, so theoretically, it could slip out of timing and the result would be you would lose the selector switch detent spring, and you would have a bad day.
https://4.bp.########.com/-gQ5b5WLZS44/WED6iFoQ8mI/AAAAAAAAk8g/neZAj1lW4PIwVq6KRgsGa3JA0guLGo4AgCPcB/s1600/PC012648.JPG
https://3.bp.########.com/-WdyHD9EHa-M/WED6iF7dK8I/AAAAAAAAk8g/lfqwqEhp1H8ciCi1hIxmZdi6P9_MAffpwCPcB/s1600/PC012649.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-jTlMzYbSSnU/WED6iEaqnRI/AAAAAAAAk8g/DYmfNBV3M1k48ccQjlajQ60KJbwjetPmwCPcB/s1600/PC012650.JPG
A comparison with the airsoft one on the left, and the real deal on the right. I haven't even fired this rifle yet because I had this fake thing on and I was waiting out for a real one to pop up.
"OULLCIROLE WARRAR"
"CLOSE QUARTERS OEFENSE"
Lol! That's what's written on the clone. It's supposed to say "FULL CIRCLE WARRIOR" "CLOSE QUARTERS DEFENSE"
https://3.bp.########.com/-5yfTvoDOGs0/WED6iPlvATI/AAAAAAAAk8g/MdtG49TTL-8vCARR2REDP3TpkPtmb4LVgCPcB/s1600/PC012651.JPG
As you can see on the real thing, there is a detent that sits into the lower receiver, ensuring that it doesn't rotate. The airsoft version does not have this.
https://4.bp.########.com/-HZU8kcAqYYc/WED6iA-0enI/AAAAAAAAk8g/dDUtUrqUy-8k6JcB-PBzs8iMYtWF9RWnwCPcB/s1600/PC012652.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-XwZVgPq3GBE/WED6iFDsqPI/AAAAAAAAk8g/COxFysZb7TwSbWMJgt6jzJnViutSQ_u8QCPcB/s1600/PC012653.JPG
Fairly simple installation. Some people will stake it in place, but I'm perfectly fine not doing this and just torquing down the castle nut.
https://4.bp.########.com/-31beLNmPmpQ/WED6iJHmPiI/AAAAAAAAk8g/piVra7ketKkQRS0PpOM-G5sJqL9Dyv1KgCPcB/s1600/PC012677.JPG
These are the best photos I could muster this time of day, poor lighting in my laundry room. Anyway, at a glance, it's pretty hard for a casual observer to tell that just swapped out the muzzle device and sling plate, but it would bug me until the end of time if I ddin't do it, haha!
https://1.bp.########.com/-EFobWn_wmLQ/WED6iEpUSbI/AAAAAAAAk8g/ahKPyEb850YpqBH4v3xkKAhffKA5lTgOwCPcB/s1600/PC012685.JPG
https://1.bp.########.com/-XQMDbMtwypg/WED6iPg6vEI/AAAAAAAAk8g/Fh4GGtPQhgIJ-YFTO_7qdc1LCyFDWXtvACPcB/s1600/PC012690.JPG
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https://2.bp.########.com/-zAVfF9XHncU/WED6iCs_6dI/AAAAAAAAk8g/5gLozta8ox8H70wDAsxdTh-LOa_741zVACPcB/s1600/PC012707.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-Ed45dFmXM7w/WED6iCsFF_I/AAAAAAAAk8g/qeRly-d0eDAyq_dtDmJnxhLX4hWpk0VlgCPcB/s1600/PC012708.JPG
https://4.bp.########.com/-xwrUgJkayqI/WED6iMNt0WI/AAAAAAAAk8g/pRhROfhXDBMa8MMOp25vJXzHZI9Lk_d0QCPcB/s1600/PC012715.JPG
https://3.bp.########.com/-88TdxTOdO5U/WED6iClbhVI/AAAAAAAAk8g/N0f2GIlWIQAAXvmfVGIGrajufhSNOVRIACPcB/s1600/PC012716.JPG
https://2.bp.########.com/-UdGWu4VENDo/WED6iPL7OxI/AAAAAAAAk8g/oiD2H3pw1sAT8QK0gXgnyFcT57myYODUACPcB/s1600/PC012718.JPG
Now that this project is done, what to do next? I know I've always wanted a Mk12, but I know I shouldn't, lol!
Anyway, this was a fun build for me, the thrill of the hunt in trying to track down various components I guess, just hope it shoots, haha!
- Location
- Richmond, BC
Made a little progress...
Are those real atpials? Love where that build is going, please put an exps and a sopmod on there it would look badass
Also you should post those pics in the m4a1 clone thread too
- Location
- Richmond, BC
Lol, I think I probably will, along with an M4 and a Mk12, but that really is the path to the dark side (and divorce), hahahahaha!
They let you out of detention...
- Location
- Richmond, BC
Well, apparently there was some sort of mix up with my infractions. Tub girl Christmas earned me 2 points, not normally an automatic pinking.
The tan unit is a real ATPIAL-C. The black unit was an InvisibleSight unit. Same functionality but the housing is airsoft quality and the internals definitely aren't up to snuff with the real thing. Seems to hold a zero on a real rifle OK, but I wouldn't trust it in the rain.
I'm leaning towards a Trijicon ACOG TA31 Chevron model instead of the Eotech EXPS setup for this gun. I've already got a Tavor with an Aimpoint H1 on it that I use for my non-magnified pew pewing.
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- Location
- Parts unknown
Looks great Donut. Welcome back.
More progress on the SOPMOD Block 1.5/2 setup! Was able to snag a Chevron reticle ACOG 4x32, and setup some Larue style clips to hold the ATPIAL-C and M600V wires in place. Also decided on a slightly different location for the ATPIAL itself.
