Crusader arms backland

The production models aren’t butchered up like that at all

According to Innavedaw's picture the bolts on production models are still being butchered by a gronk using a angle grinder and might even be drilling them by hand with how chewed up those holes are.

You can see every pass the angle grinder made in the butcher process, they made no effort to clean it up before doing a equally bad bluing job on it.

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According to Innavedaw's picture the bolts on production models are still being butchered by a gronk using a angle grinder and might even be drilling them by hand with how chewed up those holes are.

You can see every pass the angle grinder made in the butcher process, they made no effort to clean it up before doing a equally bad bluing job on it.

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But the finish makes it look better! Like lipstick on a pig.

I would imagine hacking up and drilling holes in a heat treated BCG is not a good idea to begin with.

Crusader Arms has horrible customer service, does lousy work, and uses poor quality parts (like a gas key coming loose after a couple hundred rounds). I have first hand experience with all of it.

I will never buy anything from them again.

Chinese and Turkish guns look better than this. If I want Crusader Arms quality I'll go to the Khyber Pass. At least it's cheaper.
 
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Put just over 200 rounds through it yesterday. First 30-40 shots were frustrating…feeding issues and light strikes. For the first few mags it seemed like every 5 rounds there was at least one round that wouldn’t strip completely and go into battery and one light strike. As I got up to about 50 rounds, the issues began to occur less and less. By 75-80 rounds, it was running smooth and there was only one stoppage after that and that was my fault not seating the mag properly. Seeing as this is essentially a shotgun trigger pack and shotgun action, wondering if this was due to the usual break in associated with a semiauto shotgun…

Once zeroed, accuracy was as good as any AR I own. Was able to put 25 rounds in the black at 100m seated with only my elbow resting on the bench using 55gr Norinco white box ammo. I am pretty confident that with a decent rest or bipod and using better ammo could have kept all rounds in the white centre. That will be the next test.

After that it was mag dump time -100 rounds steady, some as fast as i could go, others just with a steady cadence and finally the last 30 rounds just as controlled pairs. Not a single hiccup except for the aforementioned mag seating / user error.

Internals are not nearly as horrible as the video and I assume because they had the prototype for review…not necessarily the choice I would make for a first look at a new rifle I was marketing, but hey…not my call. I don’t mind the machining at all but I am not a machinist - I just care that it works and so far it does.

Overall, very happy with this rifle. I think the aesthetics are awesome…was always a fan of the Jesse James Califas Nomad and the Fightlite SCR so not a stretch there…and looks like now that it is broken in it runs really well and has enough accuracy to hunt with. Glad I bought it.





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Maybe I'm not looking at it right, but how are you getting the tail off of the bolt carrier?
 
But the finish makes it look better! Like lipstick on a pig.

I would imagine hacking up and drilling holes in a heat treated BCG is not a good idea to begin with.

Crusader Arms has horrible customer service, does lousy work, and uses poor quality parts (like a gas key coming loose after a couple hundred rounds). I have first hand experience with all of it.

I will never buy anything from them again.

Chinese and Turkish guns look better than this. If I want Crusader Arms quality I'll go to the Khyber Pass. At least it's cheaper.
looks like crusader is burning through their inventory of crypto parts. i guess the smart money is to wait until they use them all up and have to start producing backland-specific bcg's. on the other hand, the presumption is that if one of the hack jobs comes apart then it is a justifiable warranty call, except that rumors of poor warranty support abound. just have a look a their website ...
 
So a semi-auto rifle takes a butchered AR-15 bolt carrier with bolt that's been modified to use the Benelli M4 gas system yet still uses the AR-15 direct impingement system (gas block, gas key, and gas tube). To top it off it also uses AR-15 barrels and handguards.

Anyone want to wager what the RCMP Firearms Lab will decide when they examine it and issue an FRT? They will use that vague variant term we have grown to hate.

Crusader Arms is unloading all their surplus parts to make a quick buck and will walk away again when the FRT is issued. This is Crypto 2.0

Meanwhile, good luck getting repairs or warranty work on your rifle. I can't even find the Crusader Arms website or contact information anymore.
 
So a semi-auto rifle takes a butchered AR-15 bolt carrier with bolt that's been modified to use the Benelli M4 gas system yet still uses the AR-15 direct impingement system (gas block, gas key, and gas tube). To top it off it also uses AR-15 barrels and handguards.

Anyone want to wager what the RCMP Firearms Lab will decide when they examine it and issue an FRT? They will use that vague variant term we have grown to hate.

Crusader Arms is unloading all their surplus parts to make a quick buck and will walk away again when the FRT is issued. This is Crypto 2.0

Meanwhile, good luck getting repairs or warranty work on your rifle. I can't even find the Crusader Arms website or contact information anymore.
I said this long ago at the start of the thread and everyone wanted to debate me.
 
So a semi-auto rifle takes a butchered AR-15 bolt carrier with bolt that's been modified to use the Benelli M4 gas system yet still uses the AR-15 direct impingement system (gas block, gas key, and gas tube). To top it off it also uses AR-15 barrels and handguards.

Anyone want to wager what the RCMP Firearms Lab will decide when they examine it and issue an FRT? They will use that vague variant term we have grown to hate.

Crusader Arms is unloading all their surplus parts to make a quick buck and will walk away again when the FRT is issued. This is Crypto 2.0

Meanwhile, good luck getting repairs or warranty work on your rifle. I can't even find the Crusader Arms website or contact information anymore.
You mean to tell me that our beloved Canadian gun industry would do such crude work and sit in the shadows of deceit preying OUR OWN VERY COMMUNITY AS THEY HAVE FOR YEARS? How dare you speak the truth in here, you unpatriotic liberal communist! A brain with valleys, wrinkles and critical thinking? Here?! You need to leave.

In all seriousness though, when that FRT gets handed down, I imagine someone is going to have a not so pleasant one on one with the RCMP as to why they keep producing variants.
 
You mean to tell me that our beloved Canadian gun industry would do such crude work and sit in the shadows of deceit preying OUR OWN VERY COMMUNITY AS THEY HAVE FOR YEARS? How dare you speak the truth in here, you unpatriotic liberal communist! A brain with valleys, wrinkles and critical thinking? Here?! You need to leave.

In all seriousness though, when that FRT gets handed down, I imagine someone is going to have a not so pleasant one on one with the RCMP as to why they keep producing variants.
It could be that the people buying these don’t care so much what the RCMP lab does with the FRT.

It’s more likely that the purchasers of these rifles mostly do what they want, when they want, peacefully, morally, ethnically, and legally… without looking for express permission - after all it’s not banned or prohibited, it also meets all requirements for NR in Canada.

An FRT won’t save a rifle from being banned… so what does it really matter if one is in place?

If it would make YOU feel safer tho, don’t buy one, or call the RCMP and ask permission to buy one.

Either way isn’t a guarantee you’ll stay on the “right” side of this regime 🤷‍♂️
 
I really like mine so far, I think its better then anything else that's currently available
It will prob get banned eventually as everything will if our crooks in power continue to be
I'll just keep enjoying it in the meantime and in between time
 
I really like mine so far, I think its better then anything else that's currently available
It will prob get banned eventually as everything will if our crooks in power continue to be
I'll just keep enjoying it in the meantime and in between time
What kind of accuracy are you getting out of it?
 
pretty decent using cam pro bullets and 25gr of H335
i set up a target at 60 yards and 3 bullets were touching in a vertical string, had one flyer off to the left and the last one was an inch right of the 3 bullet string
Just using a vortex crossfire red dot
I'm not the best shooter so that's pretty good imo
 
Used a punch. Took a couple of taps.
Hah, so funny story, took another look at the bolt carrier just to make sure I wasn't crazy.

The hole for the pin that retains the recoil tail was never drilled all the way through the bolt carrier on my rifle. There was about 1-2 millimeters of material left on one side blocking the pin from going all the way through. I had to drill out the other side just so I could get a punch in there to tap it out XD.
 
Hah, so funny story, took another look at the bolt carrier just to make sure I wasn't crazy.

The hole for the pin that retains the recoil tail was never drilled all the way through the bolt carrier on my rifle. There was about 1-2 millimeters of material left on one side blocking the pin from going all the way through. I had to drill out the other side just so I could get a punch in there to tap it out XD.
I could live with that on a sub 1K gun but on a 2K gun?
 
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