CZ 527 7.62 x 39 performance
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Rocket Surgery
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I've read from others asking the same question that they will print 1-2 inch groups with factory S&B ammo and about the same with surplus. Did you know that Savage is now making a 7.62x39 rifle? It's the Model 11 FCNS I believe, so you have 3 rifles to choose from:
Norinco JW-105 Bushmaster
CZ 527
Savage Model 11
Norinco JW-105 Bushmaster
CZ 527
Savage Model 11
lejarretnoir
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I own one and it will do 2" 5 shot groups @ 100yds with Czech surplus anytime with a 4x scope. No problem with cases chambering, sticking or extracting. Out of 200rds fired, two rounds had to be recocked, but fired the second time. Hard primers, but they all worked. I have a stronger firing pin spring, but with the low amount of recocking I never changed it.
.5" groups are attainable with handloads.
.5" groups are attainable with handloads.
I have not shot factory ammo in mine but I vouch for sub-MOA groups with handloads using Hornady 125 gr poly-tipped bullets and Re7 powder. Great little rifles.
I have one and bought it to shoot cheap surplus ammo. I think I made a mistake. It will not shoot military ammo reliably, as the strike on the military primer will be too light. I heard that you must change certain springs to make it shoot surplus ammo reliably. But then, the accuracy will always suck, and is a waste of the accuracy potential of the 527.
In my view, you should reload for the 527. You can get the brass, dies and bullets from Tradeex for cheap. Use the surplus ammo in an SKS.
In my view, you should reload for the 527. You can get the brass, dies and bullets from Tradeex for cheap. Use the surplus ammo in an SKS.
According to the Savage Arms site, it is actually a Model: 10 FCM Scout. Ghost ring sights. You would need a long eye relief scope for it since the mount is so far forward on the barrel.
And then there is the Remington 799 (i really like mine) and the Ruger M77. So that now makes 5 to choose from, not to mention the various AR-15 styled semi's made by Olympic Arms, Del-Ton Inc, and ModelOne Sales.
Rocket Surgery
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It's actually not on their website yet, but it's listed in the 2011 Savage book they just sent out. We probably won't see them in Canada for a few months, but they do exist. Curious if they'll fire surplus or not.
I'm getting a 16fcss, so I've been watching Savage models closely to see if anything better comes out. There are very few SS/DM .308 rifles, and luckily Savage offers one. I got their catalogue because I wanted to see if they'd put out something lighter, but all they launched was the Axis Stainless haha.
Well, then, that may seal the deal for me. I bought my wife a MODEL 11FXP3 in .243 youth model and I love the dang thing (with a slip on recoil pad to lengthen the pull). The Accutrigger is great and looking at the Accustock, I expect good things there as well. Give me one that shoots my favourite round and I am in!!
BTW, I HATE the AXIS line!!! A friend bought one and it is quite a bit below the MODEL 11FXP3. Seriously, never thought it would happen, I am a gun snob!! I LIKE the accutrigger and the way it shoots. I did not like the way the AXIS shoulders, and although accurate enough (I couldn't get Federal PowerShocks to shoot much under 1" at 100yds while the wife's shoots a 5/8" group with the same ammo), I still like the better trigger. I would have to upgrade.
Rocket Surgery
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I like savage rifles, along with the fact that they have a factory in Canada. I can't think of another gun manufacturer that puts out this variety of rifles, bundled with the value and quality.
Here's the online catalogue link:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/savagefiles/savage_catalog_current.pdf
Page 27 has your rifle.
Here's the online catalogue link:
https://s3.amazonaws.com/savagefiles/savage_catalog_current.pdf
Page 27 has your rifle.
I bought my nephew(12years old) a CZ 527 carbine for his birthday as his first deer rifle. It is one of the nicest modern made bolts/wood stocked rifle I have handled in a very very long time. It shoots S&B ammo into 1" at 100 yards and will shoot the surplus russian stuff in the blue/green boxes to same point of impact ans the hunting ammo and just as accurratley. We never had a misfire, though once in a while the bolt is a little hard to close due to out of spec surplus ammo.
This gun has beecome my nephews and mine's favorite rifle to go plays with to blow up water bottles ,great fun!!
The nephew can consistantly shoot off hand and blow up every 1 and 2 litre water filled bottle I put out at 80-100 metres!! Man this kid can shoot!! I put a Redfield 2x7x33mm scope in medium BRNO rings wich makes a great compact ranch/deer rifle!
If I was opting for a sighted gun I would pick up a Ruger and fit a NECG rear peep sight, or just order there new Scout peep, make a great gun!cfheers Dale Z!
This gun has beecome my nephews and mine's favorite rifle to go plays with to blow up water bottles ,great fun!!
The nephew can consistantly shoot off hand and blow up every 1 and 2 litre water filled bottle I put out at 80-100 metres!! Man this kid can shoot!! I put a Redfield 2x7x33mm scope in medium BRNO rings wich makes a great compact ranch/deer rifle!
If I was opting for a sighted gun I would pick up a Ruger and fit a NECG rear peep sight, or just order there new Scout peep, make a great gun!cfheers Dale Z!
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You guys are getting that good accuracy with surplus ammo?????
I have a Shlien bbl rifle in X39 that is lucky to get 3" five shot groups with surplus at 100 yards.
I have a Shlien bbl rifle in X39 that is lucky to get 3" five shot groups with surplus at 100 yards.
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Jeff! Down boy! You're drooling all over the inside of my screen....
Mind you, if you go in to buy one, you'll probably find me buying the one next to it...
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Thanks for the good review of the CZ. I've heard good things about both the CZ 527 and the Savages that are chambered for this round. Now, just gotta decide which one feels better. . .
The flexibility of being able to plink away with surplus ammo, or to handload a hunting round makes it a nice all-rounder.
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Thanks for posting your comparison of the Axis and the 11FXP3. I was looking at both a couple of days ago and wondering just how low they could go before sacrificing something...
Guys another great powder for the 7.62x39 is VihtaVuori N130 wich I used in my 6PPC's for the last decade, I will let you know how it works out in the CZ Carbine in September, as I am going to load some Hornady SP 124gr for the fall deer hunt.
Rep of Alberta the CZ I have shoots extreamly accurrate with the russian surplus, I am surprised your good barrell is not producing 1" MOA atleast? Do you know the year of manufacture of the surplus you are using? Maybe a bad batch? good luck in finding a cure, I am also going to build a target 7.62x39 on an Lee Enfield this winter with an old Valmet 7.62x54 target barrel I have had sitting for years, cheers Dale Z!
Rep of Alberta the CZ I have shoots extreamly accurrate with the russian surplus, I am surprised your good barrell is not producing 1" MOA atleast? Do you know the year of manufacture of the surplus you are using? Maybe a bad batch? good luck in finding a cure, I am also going to build a target 7.62x39 on an Lee Enfield this winter with an old Valmet 7.62x54 target barrel I have had sitting for years, cheers Dale Z!
