Dangerous game short range match. The challenge is on!

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Since we had so much fun doing Ardent's SKS Honour match, who would be interested in participating in an online close range, dangerous game match?

Rules would be, best rapid-fire, 3 round group, as many tries as you wish before the deadline, with any medium/big bore rifle or shotgun, loaded with full power ammunition at 25 yards, freehand standing or kneeling, no slings, any sights that you feel are appropriate for close range, dangerous game.

This would function on the honor system.

Anyone game?
 
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geologist said:
Since we had so much fun doing Ardent's SKS Honour match, who would be interested in participating in an online close range, dangerous game match?

Rules would be, best rapid-fire, 3 round group, as many tries as you wish before the deadline, with any medium/big bore rifle or shotgun, loaded with full power ammunition at 25 yards, freehand standing or kneeling, no slings, any sights that you feel are appropriate for close range, dangerous game.

This would function on the honor system.

Anyone game?

explain how this is done and i might be game. p.m. me back.
 
geologist said:
Since we had so much fun doing Ardent's SKS Honour match, who would be interested in participating in an online close range, dangerous game match?

Rules would be, best rapid-fire, 3 round group, as many tries as you wish before the deadline, with any medium/big bore rifle or shotgun, loaded with full power ammunition at 25 yards, freehand standing or kneeling, no slings, any sights that you feel are appropriate for close range, dangerous game.

This would function on the honor system.

Anyone game?

Haggisfest 07 perhaps??
 
I'm in....

I'd be concerned with what some people consider rapid fire though. I know that my rapid fire is a lot faster than most, especially with my 1895GS...

How about expanding the match to a 50 yard target as well?
 
50 yards could be a second option, no problem. My personal shoot distance is 25 yards so that's what I originally proposed.

I suggest timing the period between the first shot and the last shot. Then we could score it like this:

Score = Group size (in inches) x Time (seconds)

Lowest score wins.
 
As long as I can play with my shotgun and slugs... I am all over that like a fat kid on a smartie.:)

We have been practising the last two days on close cover grouse hunting... them SOB's are deadly.:eek:
 
I would certainly be interested.

I do wonder however, why you have chosen to have the rules prohibit slings, considering you must shoot against the clock. In a real world sitation, the rifle/shotgun might very well be slung when the action starts. Having to unsling prior to engaging the target may add a degree of difficulty should some competitors shoot too closely to determine a winning score.
 
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Boomer I believe it is for a safety reason... Remember at a shooting range where many of us will be doing this you have to deal with the 180 degree rule where you're barrel direction cannot swing back past the 180 degree line.

I for example when carrying a rifle/shotgun on a sling with the barrel up and when I want to mount the firearm to my shoulder I let/make the barrel drop backwards assisted with my strong hand in the grip area of the butt stock (in my case right handed so right shoulder) continuing in about a 3/4 circle until the butt smacks into my shoulder, just can't do this at the range due to the 180 degree safety rule because I am breaking it.

edited to add.. We could all take video clips and send them by email to Geologist or someone else that has the time to compare the actual times along with a photo of our target.

oooh hooo this sounds like fun... I'm going to us my 1895GS with 405gr Bullet Barn RNFPGC's @ 1950fps and I'll also do it with my Rem 870 12 gauge with a 18.5" barrel and 3" slugs.
 
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Camp Cook said:
I'm in....

I'd be concerned with what some people consider rapid fire though. I know that my rapid fire is a lot faster than most, especially with my 1895GS...

How about expanding the match to a 50 yard target as well?

I agree, but as long as you go with the timing affecting scoring as geologist suggested, it will work itself out, and if lever guns come out top, then thats just the way it is.

I'll volunteer an RU-ready ipsc timer we can mail around to get scores.

as far as rules go, I'm for a run-what-ya-brung setup. big bore is 375 HH and up. if anyone wants to shoot something else, we make an also-ran category and they can shoot 22rf if they want.
 
if anyone wants to shoot something else, we make an also-ran category and they can shoot 22rf if they want.

I agree that people can shoot whatever calibre they consider reasonable for dangerous game. Just include your explanation of why a .223 with 55gr bullets can do the job.:D

We can have an "also ran" category for ALL calibres below .35 cal.

Since we're measuring the elapsed time from the first to last (3rd) shot, all you need is a partner with a digital watch with a stopwatch function to play.

Or as Camp Cook suggested, video your run, and stopwatch it yourself if you can't find a partner (this is a great idea Cam).

Let's remember that this is a fun honour match after all.
 
I do wonder however, why you have chosen to have the rules prohibit slings, considering you must shoot against the clock. In a real world sitation, the rifle/shotgun might very well be slung when the action starts. Having to unsling prior to engaging the target may add a degree of difficulty should some competitors shoot too closely to determine a winning score.

In most close range, dangerous game situations, I doubt that I will be using my sling to steady my aim. If some guys shoot with the sling and others don't there will be a bias towards the sling users. I just wanted everyone to be on the same footing.
 
BIGREDD said:
As long as I can play with my shotgun and slugs... I am all over that like a fat kid on a smartie.:)

We have been practising the last two days on close cover grouse hunting... them SOB's are deadly.:eek:
How do those slugs work on Grouse?
 
OK here is a draft of the rules for the dangerous game honour match.

If there are any suggestions or changes that you want for these rules, please let me know ASAP.

The winner will be based on the lowest score (group size (inches) x time (seconds)) for a rapid-fire, 3 round group, as many tries as you wish before the deadline of March 30, 2007, with any medium/big bore (.338 calibre or larger) rifle or shotgun (20 gauge or larger slugs only), loaded with full power ammunition at 25 yards, freehand standing or kneeling, no slings, any sights that you feel are appropriate for close range, dangerous game.

There will be an also-ran category in which ANY calibre may be used.

For those who have a lower tolerance for danger and better shooting skills, a 50 yard range can be used in a separate category from the 25 yard range.

Please post your results with: Rifle/shotgun model, calibre/gauge, bullet/slug weight and velocity (use the factory specs if you don't have a chrony or just guestimate), group size, time elapsed from first shot to last (3rd) and finally your score.

Eg.

BRNO 602 .375 H&H
300 gr Federal softpoint
2500 fps
Group size: 5.5"
Time: 4.2 seconds
Score: 23.1 (Hopefully I can do better than this! :D )

Post photos of your groups and links to videos of your performances if you can.

If you have access to an IPSC style timer, great, but otherwise have a partner time or video your string and time it off the video.

If you have any comments or tips (positive or negative) on your or your firearms performance, include that in your post eg. my Mossberg 500 had problems extracting empties etc. This info might be valuable to other users.

This will function on the honor system. And let's have some fun and make some noise! :dancingbanana:
 
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I think this is an intersting idea. Do you start timing from the first report, and is group size measured center to center?
 
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