Desert Tech MDR - First Impressions?

ComradeVlad said:
Lol lefty friendly they say..... Spits the hot brass out onto your supporting arm instead of ur neck...... Haha Lefty's choose ur poison.
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You can flip over the ejection port without buying another bolt or anything. Pretty damn good considering with a Tavor you need to drop another couple hundred to make it lefty friendly
 
ComradeVlad said:
This guns strikes me as being another B&T APC. Another expensive overhyped gun. But like stated it's ALWAYS good to have another option added to the NR market.
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Over hyped the B&T for sure. It didn't have an impressive features list or stats. I never jumped on the band wagon and was curious to watch so many drop 4k on it when the ACR was everything it was and more. Haha.

I think the majority of hype was the anticipation of it reeking of quality similar to the way the Swiss Arms does. But in the end, it was just an overpriced, non-innovative, front heavy, small feature list, plasticy rifle. Its 2 biggest selling features are the reputable manufacturer of barrels for the APC and the Swiss made branding.

DT MDR is none of that. What they are is slow to deliver. This thing was supposed to be to market years ago.

The hype surrounding the MDR is because of there commitment to accuracy and innovation. It looks like they have definitely innovated, and now we have to wait and see if their claims of accuracy and reliability ring true. If they do, the hype is fully justified in my opinion.
 
onetwentyish said:
DT MDR is none of that. What they are is slow to deliver. This thing was supposed to be to market years ago.

The hype surrounding the MDR is because of there commitment to accuracy and innovation. It looks like they have definitely innovated, and now we have to wait and see if their claims of accuracy and reliability ring true. If they do, the hype is fully justified in my opinion.
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I'd much rather a company took the time to work the bugs out and came to market with a finished product rather than beta testing on its customers like some other companies - Especially with something mechanically complex as a semi auto bull pup.
 
I get that, although looking at all the bullpups I have had, I feel being a bullpup has never played much into how complex a particular design is in my opinon. Semi-autos are definitely different from bolt rifles in that the designers must do a balancing act between accuracy and reliability of proper cycling, as both features rely heavily in oposite ways on how tight/loose the rifles tolerances are.

This is where DT worries me, and I assume this is also why it has taken so long to come to market. This is DT's first foray into the semi-auto market, so they have to get it right or it could hurt them severely if they ever do another SA in the future.
 
onetwentyish said:
I get that, although looking at all the bullpups I have had, I feel being a bullpup has never played much into how complex a particular design is in my opinon. Semi-autos are definitely different from bolt rifles in that the designers must do a balancing act between accuracy and reliability of proper cycling, as both features rely heavily in oposite ways on how tight/loose the rifles tolerances are.

This is where DT worries me, and I assume this is also why it has taken so long to come to market. This is DT's first foray into the semi-auto market, so they have to get it right or it could hurt them severely if they ever do another SA in the future.
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They were smart this time round and used standard magazines, rather than manufacturing their own.... HUGE issues with the older 10 round mags in the SRS.... I've got one that basically double feeds a bolt gun.

I'll be getting a MDR when im done school, in the 223 variant. Should be onto A1 by then.
 
SRS is an unique beast using same magwell for 308 and 338LM. What std mag would work in that config???

How does the MDR handle mags for 308 and 223?
bsand said:
They were smart this time round and used standard magazines, rather than manufacturing their own.... HUGE issues with the older 10 round mags in the SRS.... I've got one that basically double feeds a bolt gun.

I'll be getting a MDR when im done school, in the 223 variant. Should be onto A1 by then.
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burnaby said:
SRS is an unique beast using same magwell for 308 and 338LM. What std mag would work in that config???

How does the MDR handle mags for 308 and 223?
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they could have used a sleeve, like they are using for the MDR. AI 338 LM mag would be perfect, then a sleeve for the AI mags.


Either way, ill be getting me an MDR after im done with school, probably with a suppressor to match in USA.
 
I love how everyone is 100% dead set in there mind that a precision bolt gun company that hase never built a semi auto before will deliver a 1/2 moa semi auto bullpup, that is multi caliber and hase a quick change barrel system. I am not at all saying its going to suck but let face it its already over a year behind schedule. That is probably due to reliability, logistics and parts and material sourcing. Being behind schedule sucks but it is terrible wen bills stacks up, share holders breathe down your neck and you rush the product to market. Then you might have an unproven system in your hand from a company that hase never build a semi-auto.

All could go well.... time will tell! I am just so sick of all the over hype, almost every new NR coming to market is the most awsomest thing and then it is not. The xcr, scar, acr all were at one time the new best thing, now look in the USA and the AR still rules, sames happend here.
 
I watched a couple of videos from DT that chalked the delays up to reliability issues in the select fire models but time will tell I guess. The video above suggests 1 moa accuracy is possible which is good but I agree, long term reliability is critical.
 
blaxsun said:
1-1.5 MOA accuracy in a bullpup would be phenomenal.
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Indeed, it might be more accurate then the RFB, but I guess that not by much and its probably going to be over 50%more expensive . The rfb being 1.5 -2.5 moa gun, that has ben deemed crap for its lack of accuracy but majorly cause it comes from a manufacturer that is known for producing cheap polymer pistol. Will this bullpup after a couple of years be deemed better if it proves to be a 1-2 moa rifle comming from a compagny that is known for making $5000 plus semi custom bullpup precision rifle that makes a bullpup SPR rifle that cost 50-75% more then an RFB but is only an average of .5 moa more accurate (1-2 vs 1.5-2.5 moa) ?
 
It's already for sale so I think the answer is....yes. Accuracy is all about the law of diminishing returns. There's a reason my LSS Tikka costs a third as much as a desert tech or AI bolt gun even though they print groups that are only a half inch better. Given that the primary bull pup competition is the Tavor/X95 (maybe a 4 moa gun) if DT could come in within 750 bucks of the retail for the Tavor, be reliable with most ammo and shoot 1moa in a NR platform I'd definitely call that a win.

On an aside, I didn't hate my RFB for it's accuracy, I just hated the trigger and that Tupperware feel of the stock.
 
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AI mags with sleeve would have been preferred. Wonder if DT is/ever considering that.
bsand said:
they could have used a sleeve, like they are using for the MDR. AI 338 LM mag would be perfect, then a sleeve for the AI mags. ...
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AR would rule here except for Lieberals F'ed us with Restricted status. AR rules the range and only the range so only good as a toy; no practical use.
rally guy said:
...The xcr, scar, acr all were at one time the new best thing, now look in the USA and the AR still rules, sames happend here.
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