Desert Tech MDR Updates
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The 2 don't even compare. One is a bolt action precision rifle comparable to the top precision rifles. Why does accuracy international, pgw, cadex, surgeon cost more then a tavor? Why does sako cost more then savage? These rifles are made by the same company but are entirely different, for a different market with a different purpose entirely. There are numerous other factors as well including targeted market, manufacture costs, R and D and material costs.
Thanks for your attempt to explain, at least you tried. Shooting Center already provided a much better explanation in post #34 that made sense.
Using your examples a coyote is $4.8k vs Tavor at $3k, 1.6x price vs 2.26x for SRS/MDR; a 40% diff.
Obvious why Sako cost more than Savage due to quality difference. For sure DT will tell you there is NOT the same quality difference between the SRS and MDR.
Go read Shooting Center's explanation, they nailed it.
Using your examples a coyote is $4.8k vs Tavor at $3k, 1.6x price vs 2.26x for SRS/MDR; a 40% diff.
Obvious why Sako cost more than Savage due to quality difference. For sure DT will tell you there is NOT the same quality difference between the SRS and MDR.
Go read Shooting Center's explanation, they nailed it.
Shooting Center certainly knew how to compare and explain; perhaps they are just better at understanding the market and comparing goods. You misunderstood the initial assertion which is same company, Hugh price disparity, gonna be a good reason; that's the part you missed. More than double, like 2.5x, that needs explaining.
The world is not as different as you believe, thankfully Shooting Center was knowledgeable enough to explain it so having said that I'm satisfy with their answer. Great if you have something to add but insisting can't compare cause you can't find similarity doesn't help.
The world is not as different as you believe, thankfully Shooting Center was knowledgeable enough to explain it so having said that I'm satisfy with their answer. Great if you have something to add but insisting can't compare cause you can't find similarity doesn't help.
I think you missed my point entirely. I was simply trying to point out that they are different rifles for different purposes, an apples to oranges comparison, different rifles and different markets.
I generalized the answer, however it appears a more detailed explanation is warranted.
The tavor is comparable to the mdr, price and market so that comparison I get. You cherry picked my last response to make your own point. If you want to compare PGW and the DTA srs the coyote is not a fair comparison. An excellent rifle but not the same. The srs platform are all able the be configured in .338 so a more accurate comparison would be the timberwolf which is not $4800. Let's round down and put at the $6800 that you can get an srs brand new for. (At Epps right now) that would be a better comparison and adds up to the same price difference.
A better comparison would be the ai which has pretty much the same features that the srs has. Last I checked they carry a price of $7500 plus, or 2.5x the price.
Let's make it even closer and compare a company that has similar products, FN. The scar has a comparable price to the tavor and MDR based on a quick Google search. FN also makes a multi caliber precision rifle the ballista, which has price of $7500 American, making it worth over 2.5x the price of the scar 16/17
My comment on Sako vs. Savage was more a point to show how the markets for both are different.
If you want to compare atleast compare apples to apples.
I do agree that csc had a good explanation, as I did read their post.
I generalized the answer, however it appears a more detailed explanation is warranted.
The tavor is comparable to the mdr, price and market so that comparison I get. You cherry picked my last response to make your own point. If you want to compare PGW and the DTA srs the coyote is not a fair comparison. An excellent rifle but not the same. The srs platform are all able the be configured in .338 so a more accurate comparison would be the timberwolf which is not $4800. Let's round down and put at the $6800 that you can get an srs brand new for. (At Epps right now) that would be a better comparison and adds up to the same price difference.
A better comparison would be the ai which has pretty much the same features that the srs has. Last I checked they carry a price of $7500 plus, or 2.5x the price.
Let's make it even closer and compare a company that has similar products, FN. The scar has a comparable price to the tavor and MDR based on a quick Google search. FN also makes a multi caliber precision rifle the ballista, which has price of $7500 American, making it worth over 2.5x the price of the scar 16/17
My comment on Sako vs. Savage was more a point to show how the markets for both are different.
If you want to compare atleast compare apples to apples.
I do agree that csc had a good explanation, as I did read their post.
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Maybe, but the shooting community in the states is already comparing the tavor and the MDR. The tavor also has a 9mm and .300 blk conversion kit available now.
The only thing the rfb has is it is 308 that makes it comparable to the MDR and it's a bullpup. It's lack of at mag compatibility and less ideal ergonomics are used against it. Keltec does not have the proven reputation of the tavor either. Realistically they are both comparable, but I don't think there is anything truly comparable to the MDR currently on the market.
Every gun goes through the lab for a FRT, regardless of obvious classification.
I guess if they make a FA version then the semi is guaranteed needing to be sent in for a FRT?
The TAVOR has been in development and production for 15 years, and have been deployed in actual combat on a mass scale.
Not to get down on the MDR, but so far we have only seen 3D printed bodies and no one seem to have shot a real firing production prototype. No one knows how durable and reliable this thing is. 3 years from start to serial production of a completely new rifle is VERY fast - you cannot expect it to have the same maturity as the TAVOR.
