One for sale on EE for 275 http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1254726-COLT-SA20-part-out
Dieamaco stripped lowers
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One for sale on EE for 275 http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1254726-COLT-SA20-part-out
Well, Just got my certs today, The serial #'s are consecutive but they are not the #'s that I was given over the phone, no big deal but this just got more interesting.
My #'s are 140124*DB and 140124*DB, If they made only 1000 + 10% why are my #'s so high.
ODell won't tell us how how many they are and i'm beginning to think they are more than 100 being released and it's a way to get more money out of us just like Korth did...
Its a shame they can't just tell the truth. and now they are pairing the rest with IUR since they aren't selling as fast as anticipated.
My #'s are 140124*DB and 140124*DB, If they made only 1000 + 10% why are my #'s so high.
ODell won't tell us how how many they are and i'm beginning to think they are more than 100 being released and it's a way to get more money out of us just like Korth did...
Its a shame they can't just tell the truth. and now they are pairing the rest with IUR since they aren't selling as fast as anticipated.
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Interesting indeed.
They sold the stripped lowers fast enough that I wasn't able to get one. I checked on the first day they were released and was too late. That being said, I have passed on the IUR combo since I already have the IUR upper. The pairing sounds more like a way to sell the IUR uppers which they had too many of and sales had stalled.
I missed that post on here. How many did korth say they had and were selling?
And have you spoken with any of the retailers, to find out what has happened to the price since the new distributor has sold guns?
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Korth isn't involved. O'Dell's took over as the distributor a couple of months ago. Korth is out.
Colt Canada release 500 sa20 and 500 sa15.7 in total. The initial reports were 100 additional stripped receivers without sa markings were now released. The serial numbers indicate a higher number produced though.
From what I've heard, all the stripped lowers are being transferred as sa15.7 stripped receivers.
Perhaps the 1401200DB series are 15.7 stripped lowers, and the (unreleased) 1401100DB lowers that may or may not exist are sa20 stripped lowers. 100 extra of each set perhaps. Total guess though.
I will see what is stamped on mine when received.
Don't know if you noticed the post that I quoted, and hence, my question.
I'm still trying to determine, other than through IOP, who purchased anything from korth.
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I did. It sounded like you thought Korth was still the distributor. Are you trying to figure out how many they sold of the sa20/sa15.7 and then count back to figure out what is left for sale by O'Dells?
Nope. Just the way people were slagging Colt Canada in reference the price, I'm trying to figure out why people say the things they do. I asked people who did the most slagging how they know what price Colt should have sold the rifles for, and how do they (the slaggers) know how much CC's total production cost is, ie. the same as any manufactured product, material, capital costs, wages, advertising, etc etc etc.
In other words, why were they slagging Colt Canada, when they (the slaggers) had absolutely no idea what they were talking about.
Same as this, someone is saying a company was gouging people, and therefore I'm trying to determine how he knows, a. what one company paid for the rifles from CC, b. what their costs were to deal with the rifles, c. what the cost was the shops paid, as they are the ones who take the money.
It seems folks on here have this sense of entitlement, in that these rifles should have been given almost for nothing to the public.
The lack of business understanding on here has been another pet peeve of mine. Especially when one considers that any rifle was purchased from a retail outlet, and for some reason, none of the retailers, who take the money, are said to be gouging the way the other companies are.
Strange place, so I thought to get some of these people to actually deal with their slagging of any company. Mostly when these people are brought to task on this issue, they just go away.
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Copy that. I do think there is a supply vs demand angle to all this, but that is how the market works. The triads for example have a replacement cost to the CF of somewhere around 70 to 80 buck. So $300 is quite a mark up. Sure, there is a smaller volume, but the angle is that these are surplus, so they should have come from a larger volume purchase previously anyways.
At the end of the day, mark up is mark up. If people didn't pay it, the price would come down.
It isn't coming down, because people are paying.
Capitalism.
At the end of the day, mark up is mark up. If people didn't pay it, the price would come down.
It isn't coming down, because people are paying.
Capitalism.
And that is the exact point to be made!
But some folks here, like I mentioned, bad mouth companies, without having the proverbial clue what they are talking about.
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And then they wonder why companies don't want to talk to them on open forums.
I jumped and purchased 2 lowers because of the low #'s that were supposed to be released.
But according to the serial #'s they are more.
Ive purchased everything Colt Canada has release, Granted I got the stuff at IOP pricing, I still feel like they are ripping us off, but we got to pay to play...
But according to the serial #'s they are more.
Ive purchased everything Colt Canada has release, Granted I got the stuff at IOP pricing, I still feel like they are ripping us off, but we got to pay to play...
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Who is ripping you off? And what is the price you should have paid? How much did the product cost to build and distribute?
And the big question is: how do you know the costs involved, and therefore, how much the price should be?
If you are going to say businesses are "ripping us off", tell us what your knowledge of the product cost, etc really is.
And your attitude is what causes some companies to simply refuse or quit selling their product at reduced prices. They don't have to do that, but they do. You come here and slag those same companies, without having any idea as to what you are speaking of, and causes grief to those same companies that gave you and potentially other persons eligible for IOP pricing, enough headaches to simply not bother to offer those discounts in the future. So you ruin it for others.
I for one appreciate any good faith reduction in price I can receive. I also will endorse and thank those same companies, but you are coming here after getting a reduced price through good fellowship, and then slag the company that gave you the deal.
No class buddy.
Dude give it up already, Im not slagging anyone.
Korth Introduced these riffles at an incredibly high price.
IOP was introduced
Then Korth Drop the price even more.
Then Odell became the new distributor.
So yeah speaking our minds dropped the prices to where it should have been in the first place.
I asked Odell myself how many IUR were to be released and was told they are not willing to release the #'s.
Well Ive seen the pricing that DND pays, so 300$ for those surplus tri-ads is a ripoff plain and simple.
time for me to go play with my stripped lowers and build my IUR... all this negativity is making me sad...
Korth Introduced these riffles at an incredibly high price.
IOP was introduced
Then Korth Drop the price even more.
Then Odell became the new distributor.
So yeah speaking our minds dropped the prices to where it should have been in the first place.
I asked Odell myself how many IUR were to be released and was told they are not willing to release the #'s.
Well Ive seen the pricing that DND pays, so 300$ for those surplus tri-ads is a ripoff plain and simple.
time for me to go play with my stripped lowers and build my IUR... all this negativity is making me sad...
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