Diemaco C8 worth the price?
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Just as you do Ryan. Don't sweat it, retailers are the last ones I think anyone would blame.
If I had to guess, either CC put the pressure on Korth to improve the pricing or CC is taking the hit on the reduced pricing because of the public lashing they've taken over this. Or maybe it is a little of both. I don't think Korth cares much about what the average end-user thinks of them but you can be damn sure the people at CC, many of whom are former CF themselves, sure do.
I just hope that after all of this CC doesn't say, "F this civilian sales nonsense". With so many whiny man-children, you'd have to be nuts to manufacture a black rifle in Canada and try and sell it to civilians.
Just an FYI, I didn't mean I wouldn't be selling Colt/Diemaco. I just meant to say that I wasn't aware there was going to be a price decrease and if I was I'd have waited to sell them. Colt Canada/Diemaco is an excellent product.
Anyone that bought one from me at full price, let me know when you place your next order and I'll knock 10% off.
On the up side, there is now a Mil/LE program and civilian pricing is now lower which means more people can own them.
If you don't own an AR, buy an AR...it doesn't matter what brand you buy first because you can't own just one
Anyone that bought one from me at full price, let me know when you place your next order and I'll knock 10% off.
On the up side, there is now a Mil/LE program and civilian pricing is now lower which means more people can own them.
If you don't own an AR, buy an AR...it doesn't matter what brand you buy first because you can't own just one
Just an FYI, I didn't mean I wouldn't be selling Colt/Diemaco. I just meant to say that I wasn't aware there was going to be a price decrease and if I was I'd have waited to sell them. Colt Canada/Diemaco is an excellent product.
Anyone that bought one from me at full price, let me know when you place your next order and I'll knock 10% off.
On the up side, there is now a Mil/LE program and civilian pricing is now lower which means more people can own them.
If you don't own an AR, buy an AR...it doesn't matter what brand you buy first because you can't own just one
Is the Mil/LE program only for active duty or also previous?
Basically the black gun market is pretty flooded at the moment which is why you're seeing large price drops. Almost every brand has dropped pricing in the last few months. Now is the time to buy an AR15/black gun. Once the warehouses/over stock are gone I think you'll see the prices of many brands start to climb back up again. Who ever thought you'd see such low prices on some guns.
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Perhaps you should read my posts again. Nowhere did I say they were junk, in fact I think they're fine rifles. They simply aren't worth the extreme prices being commanded. Similar or identical spec'd rifles can be had for equal or in most cases a lot less money. Hence the request for someone, anyone, to produce facts as to why they believe the CC rifle is so much better than a similar/same spec'd rifle from another maker.
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Definitely a buyer’s market for ARs right now, best prices I’ve seen since I got into shooting (which hasn’t been all that long).
So back to the OP’s question, is the C8/SA15.7 (or C7/SA20 for that matter) worth it? I’d stay it’s definitely closer than it was before. The new pricing will help their sales and get more of these things out into the population, but I think they’re still limiting their market as not every cares about the roll marks/nostalgia factor and the CHF barrels.
The fact can’t be ignored that there are US-made (US-Made, which was a key selling point for a lot of people for the last few years) ARs for $1,000 that were historically $2,500. I can’t stress this enough that not everyone has CHF Barrel, roll marks, and “made-in-Canada” on their check-list. You can’t fault the market for that, it’s just the way it is. Is it an awesome rifle? Yes. Is it worth $1,799 to $1,999? To some.
The US black rifle market is currently saturated, and that’s also why we’re seeing this huge drop in prices up here. I don’t think we’re there yet, but I’m sure we’ll reach that point soon enough.
One thing I’m sort of wondering about is the price difference between the 20” and the 15.7”. It appears to me (and I could very well be wrong) that in the US market, longer barrelled rifles generally command a higher price than short barreled versions? For example $1,149 for the AR15A4, and $998 for the LE6920? With Colt Canada, we have the opposite with the SA20 for $1,799 and the SA15.7 for $1,999. Is there a technical reason, or is the pricing based on perceived demand in the market?
So back to the OP’s question, is the C8/SA15.7 (or C7/SA20 for that matter) worth it? I’d stay it’s definitely closer than it was before. The new pricing will help their sales and get more of these things out into the population, but I think they’re still limiting their market as not every cares about the roll marks/nostalgia factor and the CHF barrels.
The fact can’t be ignored that there are US-made (US-Made, which was a key selling point for a lot of people for the last few years) ARs for $1,000 that were historically $2,500. I can’t stress this enough that not everyone has CHF Barrel, roll marks, and “made-in-Canada” on their check-list. You can’t fault the market for that, it’s just the way it is. Is it an awesome rifle? Yes. Is it worth $1,799 to $1,999? To some.
The US black rifle market is currently saturated, and that’s also why we’re seeing this huge drop in prices up here. I don’t think we’re there yet, but I’m sure we’ll reach that point soon enough.
One thing I’m sort of wondering about is the price difference between the 20” and the 15.7”. It appears to me (and I could very well be wrong) that in the US market, longer barrelled rifles generally command a higher price than short barreled versions? For example $1,149 for the AR15A4, and $998 for the LE6920? With Colt Canada, we have the opposite with the SA20 for $1,799 and the SA15.7 for $1,999. Is there a technical reason, or is the pricing based on perceived demand in the market?
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Do you mean like when you claimed that the groups that I posted were 3+ moa, when in reality they were less than half that size? I have to wonder about your ability to estimate group sizes.
Just kidding, but after that blunder, you deserve to be razzed a bit.
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Does anyone know the Mil pricing and details?
Wouldnt know been issued a C7A1, C7A2, C8 FTHB, C8. Wouldn't know nothing about Diemaco. So Slap a Diemaco barrel on a Norc will it shoot the same? Prolly. Most people DITCHED the ambi mag release and charging handle in Theater since it was a POS. Triad and Cadex Those were junk accessories.
I just have to Laugh, Because every year always a different debate about the BEST AR... Then another company comes around and must have that... All these are are must have pieces. Since most WONT shoot it like they they're trying to compare it to. Buy a DD, trick it out, shoot 25m? THEN need the BEST MOA?
Email Korth with a scan of your MIL ID and they will send it to you. Probably best to do it from your DWAN account but you don't have to as long as you send ID.
They will ask you not to make that price public.
That's why nobody is making the price public. That's up to Korth.
It's better than the "new" pricing and you have the green furniture option.
Unless you have to sign a non-disclosure agreement to buy direct from Korth. This is a private company and not a department of the government. So yes, it might be a secret. For now, I'll tell you the mil price makes it worth buying for me. I would not purchase one for $2000+
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Someone recently posted they brought their Norc 10.5in upper to work and blipped 30 rounds out on auto. My guess would be it’s probably a no-no, by the book, but some of the older guys used to do things differently.
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