Yep, good idea, this is what I was looking of among other info in this thread! Are there some AR-15 gurus out there that can run it down for us not so knowledgeable guys?Somebody tgat actually knows something about ARs shoukd make a list of what's what for what $
I just bought my first AR a month ago, a Norc. It was. $525 and runs fine, but I bought it for beginner shooters to use it hard. Of course I rediscovered how much fun they are and now might want another AR but not familiar with the Oracles etc. Only ever shot Colts back in the day.
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im still trying to figure out how to change my trigger...
I bought one of the Afghan "poo dust" ones from IRG's. It is a DPMS but not the "Orical", not certain but I believe it's called the Panther. The transaction was smooth, no fuss, no muss. IRG's took care of all the paperwork BS and had it delivered to my door. The rifle is well made (American), the finish is mil-spec (unlike a Norc {I've heard horror stories}). And it shoots better than I can. Bone stock it has a good trigger (combat rifle remember), good sights well made gun...I love it, and would have no concern dealing with IRG's. And yes, the new ones have a warrantee, but I'll agree with what's been said. If you can't fix it yourself, you need help. These things are dead simple and parts abound...1911 of rifles!
I have 2 Rem 700's with XMP triggers that are on the recall list. Rather then piss around waiting months for the free replacement, I bought a couple Timneys instead. It was a pretty #### trigger to begin with, which is what I expected on a $650 rifle....
I mostly build my AR's from scratch these days, but if I bought one of these $500 DPMS I wouldn't give 2 ####s about a warranty. It's a basic entry level rifle, and wtf is going to break that you would even go through warranty anyway? Don't forget, once you start swapping #### out your warranty is void anyway....and how many people will keep it in its current configuration.
Darren, I think you are confusing the NEA threads with the IRG threads....lol.
I get that they throw a wrench into the Canadian market, where everything is 50%-100% more expensive then the US. They do a pretty decent job for the Canadian consumer by opening up that market....if you have patience and can wait 6-8 weeks for the import process. It's something Canadian gun owners have wanted and waited for, for a long time. Nothing stopping you from setting up a similar operation. Competition is good, bashing another dealer for warranty work on a Remington owned product (DPMS/Bushmaster which you also sell) which would go through Gravels here and is basically worthless anyway, doesn't make much sense to me.
Nonexistent "Grey market" warranty vs useless Remington service in Canada is pretty much a wash I think....lol.
Buying from a reputable brand is a warranty in itself. By the time something breaks, your warranty is expired or will take months to get your gun back. A week later at the most, you can replace the broken parts with the new ones you ordered.
Runningfool
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I think you are the one confused here. I don't think Darren is talking about Remingtons, and I believe he makes a good point.
I would say give wolverine a couple of days see if they come up with another Daniel defence deal! I bought a 6920 from irg, yes I was and am ecstatic of the price but it is still pricier then the dd deal and I am in no way expecting a better rifle then the dd m4v5 I already have. Also I will say that the dpms is a steel! But well even if it's a steel it all depends what you want, do you want a hell and back will still be spitting lead in 100 years rifle(depending on your rounds per year) or do you want a range and back you probably wont have problems ar?
dsmitherin
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wish canada didn't sign ITAR.
BCM is blowing out their uppers and many stores are having 400 off for all DD rifle state side.
BCM is blowing out their uppers and many stores are having 400 off for all DD rifle state side.
I have changed a number of them. each AR gets a new Rock River trigger. The instructions start with "Remove the safety." This is a pain and I found it unnecessary.
Knock out the pin holding the trigger and the hammer. The trigger will come out the top, with a bit of wiggling. The safety has to be turned one way or the other to let the trigger come out. the new one drops in the same way.
Like wen you guy's told me my 3000$ rfb indeed came with a sling but not the front sling attachment and that ALL the rfb that came true your door were that way? To bad I had cgn hehe
and I had to email kel tec directly and they fixt me up asap!!! true storyBut it's an old one and I have to say I dealt with you guy's many times after and talk to you on the phone and you gave me excellent service!
I will say that since all work out for me now spilling these beans I feel like we are even ! Plus I am eyeing a dd mk12 as my next ar purchase! I am really taken a back with that gun and I can't really see another ar 15 coming in a better package as I am not a lefty so the ambi stuff on kac's and stuff seem pointless plus I am really curious to see guy's push the limit of that dd mk12 ss cold hammer forge barrel!
American companies have to raise cash by giving deals. Canada is one of the only places that a lot of this stuff can go quickly.
But when the balance happens prices will go higher. Some of these companies might not be around, so warranty won't mean anything.
But when the balance happens prices will go higher. Some of these companies might not be around, so warranty won't mean anything.
As others have stated watch for a Wolverine sale on DD's in the very near future. Also many of the Daniel Defense rifles in the 6.8 Spc calibre are already marked down if you're looking for something other then .556. I do realize these DD rifles are still over $1,000 if only by a few hundred, however they are substantially better then what you find in the under $1,000 price category of AR's. Items like a 1/7 twist Cold Hammer Forged barrel, M16 BCG (properly staked), high quality furniture along with Mil-Spec. throughout insure these rifles maintain one of the best reputations in the AR market. This keeps these rifles sought after making re-sale an easy process, that's if you could ever find a reason to sell one.
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Budget AR's, right now everyone is flogging the DPMS Oracle for $650+ with a mail in $50 rebate, IRUNGUNS is bringing them to market for $500US direct to us, no middleman distributor like the Canadian dealers have to go through.
Remington OWNS DPMS and BUSHY, have for several years. They will be the ones doing warranty work if you buy the Canadian priced version instead of what Darren calls "grey market" IRUNGUNS version. This is because the Canadian distributor has said they will not honor any warranty on guns imported direct from USA to protect their Canadian retailers. They large distributors in Canada suck royal balls for warranty work anyway, so it's basically nonexistent. Putting $150-$200 value or premium on this warranty that won't do #### all for you is silly.
Anyway, my first ARF was a DPMS complete kit (M4) less lower, bought it for $800 back in 2000 or so from TSE. Stuck it on a stripped Dlask lower that was $199 at the time. Never broke anything on it and the only thing worn is the finish....
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IRG has the 6933 colt up for $1199, now! I would think warranty would be more of a concern with the higher priced items!
Another concern ( and this is with all firearms made in the last couple years) is QC,, the rush to buy firearms in the U.S. is showing itself in Quality control problems I believe, so makes me worry about these AR's that re coming up cheap, someone already said the colts are not looking as nice as older onesETC. Can anyone attest to the validity of this problem! (not just the colts, I bought one of the LE savage 10tr and some people have complained about those too, along with some troubles with Remington) So I think the manufacturers are pushing the factories to the limit and things get by that usually do not!
Another concern ( and this is with all firearms made in the last couple years) is QC,, the rush to buy firearms in the U.S. is showing itself in Quality control problems I believe, so makes me worry about these AR's that re coming up cheap, someone already said the colts are not looking as nice as older onesETC. Can anyone attest to the validity of this problem! (not just the colts, I bought one of the LE savage 10tr and some people have complained about those too, along with some troubles with Remington) So I think the manufacturers are pushing the factories to the limit and things get by that usually do not!
