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IMR vs D4895

I did another test today:

22C at pretty much sea level.

Remington 700 heavy barrel 26" in 308 win.

USA brass (Winchester) all full sized to my gun. .002 bump. Trimmed to 1.995 then sorted to 157-158gr.
Sierra 168gr matchking HPBT seated at 2.875"
Fed 210M
All powder charges thrown on a Chargemaster lite and trickled on a RCBS 5-0-2 scale. Which has been checked against other scales and weights.


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Labradar speeds

15 shots each of 42.5grs.

2 foulers at start of range trip. Allowed to cool for 30m untill it was this guns turn. Then allowed to fully cool before the next powder group

IMR 4895

Avg 2535
High 2560
Low 2504
Es 57
Std 14.5

D4895 current Lot 1459

Avg 2561
High 2589
Low 2544
Es 45
Std 11.4

Prehaps a slight accuracy edge to the D4895. Could be as that is my standard load. Both shot 5-3 round groups under 3/4" 100yds.


Faster or slower?

It's great powder!

I will do a similar test with the D4350ssc next
 

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Did somebody tried Dominion 8208BR versus IMR 8208XBR? And if someone did, what are the numbers?
Thanks

I haven't tried the IMR flavor but i worked up a load with D8208 with a 75 grain hornady BTHP for my 223 and it shoots well. Meters beautifully. Well below the hodgdon listed max before i hit pressure in my rifle so work up slow.
 
For those who wanted to know, comparison of IMR 8208XBR vs Dominion 8208BR. Same extrusion size but cutted a bit shorter. And IMR is yellowish, Dominion is gray. Here are the results.

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6.5x47 Lapua w/ 123 grains Lapua Scenar, 34.0 grains of powder, same COAL

IMR 8208XBR w/ Federal GM205M
Min 2737
Max 2764
Avg 2746
ES 27
SD 15.6

Dominion 8208BR w/ Federal GM205M
Min 2866
Max 2869
Avg 2867
ES 3
SD 1.5

IMR 8208XBR w/ CCI #450
Min 2733
Max 2748
Avg 2739
ES 15
SD 7.6

Dominion 8208BR w/ CCI #450
Min 2850
Max 2885
Avg 2869
ES 35
SD 17.7

Dominion 8208BR w/ Remington 7 1/2
Min 2853
Max 2866
Avg 2859
ES 13
SD 6.5

In conclusion, Dominion is hotter than IMR, but it is also more stable than IMR.
 
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For those who have been messaging me and who ever else is interested. I will run test with the D4350SSC. Just which cartridge are you more interested in? 6.5 creed or the 300 win?
 
For those who have been messaging me and who ever else is interested. I will run test with the D4350SSC. Just which cartridge are you more interested in? 6.5 creed or the 300 win?

I would welcome results in 300 Win... I was considering a switch to the D4350SSC to test it out, but figured I need to work out a few other things with my remaining IMR 4831 before I can start comparing powders...
 
For those who have been messaging me and who ever else is interested. I will run test with the D4350SSC. Just which cartridge are you more interested in? 6.5 creed or the 300 win?

I haven't messaged you about it, but I'd be more interested in seeing the 6.5 test, it's closer to the 6.5x55 I'll most likely be using it with. I'll probably try it in 30-06 eventually too.
Kristian
 
D4350sc loads like Rl19. I doubt you'll get enough in that creedmoor case to see decent speeds. Starvin loaded it successfully in a 300 wm a few pages back.

If you need to load a Dominion powder in a 6.5 creedmoor, try 4064sc.
 
The 4064ssc is turning out to be a pretty great powder so far. Only loading it in .308 for now but it's good stuff. Doesn't meter well from an RCBS thrower, I'm hoping the Dillon thrower works adequately for bulk 150grn FMJ ammo.
 
I have have pretty good luck with 145 147 get bullets and D4350SSC around 42.5 to 44 gr
Can get you with a 24-26 inch barrel around 2725 to 2815
It is a compressed load and one rifle likes 44.1gr other it was touch to hot and liked 43-43.5gr both sub moa
 
My latest test. D4350ssc.

Gun:
Rem 783, 6.5 Creedmore 24" heavy barrel

Ammo:
Virgin Hornady 6.5 Creedmore brass. Trimmed to 1.910.
Weighed and sorted to .5gr
Fed 210M primer
140gr Hornady SST weighed and sorted. Within .5gr (I wanted to use these up)
2.690coal.
Charges weighed on a RCBS 5-0-2 scale

18C at 300' elevation.
Labradar speeds 10 shots each load. Which was verified with my known 308 load.

Load A:
41gr IMR 4350
Avg 2567
Hi. 2593
Lo. 2548
ES. 45

Load B:
41gr D4350ssc LOT 25
Avg 2450
Hi. 2475
Lo. 2432
ES. 43

The ES seems high.

Only did 10 shots today as I didn't think there was any need to get a larger sample for these 2.

As for accuracy. Neither.

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I added the 7828 as it is the only SSC I have.

I would say the D4350ssc is a considerably slower powder. Maybe even closer to 4831 or RL19 as some have already suggested. I had some IMR 4831 loaded up but not that low.
Even the IMR4350 is 150fps slower than the Hornady book using the same ingredients. Hornady shows 42grs of IMR4350 as a max load.

I will try the 300 win next. Just I had my scope lens fall out so it is in for warranty. Might be a month or 2.
 

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My latest test. D4350ssc.

Gun:
Rem 783, 6.5 Creedmore 24" heavy barrel

Ammo:
Virgin Hornady 6.5 Creedmore brass. Trimmed to 1.910.
Weighed and sorted to .5gr
Fed 210M primer
140gr Hornady SST weighed and sorted. Within .5gr (I wanted to use these up)
2.690coal.
Charges weighed on a RCBS 5-0-2 scale

18C at 300' elevation.
Labradar speeds 10 shots each load. Which was verified with my known 308 load.

Load A:
41gr IMR 4350
Avg 2567
Hi. 2593
Lo. 2548
ES. 45

Load B:
41gr D4350ssc
Avg 2450
Hi. 2475
Lo. 2432
ES. 43

The ES seems high.

Only did 10 shots today as I didn't think there was any need to get a larger sample for these 2.

As for accuracy. Neither.

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I added the 7828 as it is the only SSC I have.

I would say the D4350ssc is a considerably slower powder. Maybe even closer to 4831 or RL19 as some have already suggested. I had some IMR 4831 loaded up but not that low.
Even the IMR4350 is 150fps slower than the Hornady book using the same ingredients. Hornady shows 42grs of IMR4350 as a max load.

I will try the 300 win next. Just I had my scope lens fall out so it is in for warranty. Might be a month or 2.


Great post. These posts really need to quote the Lot # of the Dominion poweders so they can be used as a reference for others down the road.
 
D4350ssc lot 25.

Added it to the post. They are in the other tests. Missed this one I guess.

Do you need the lot# of the IMR powders?
 
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