Don't shoot strange-looking escaped deer, Ontario sanctuary urges

i have to agree with doug. if not recapsured promptly they should be exterminated. its not worth the risk to the wild population. what is a few fallow deer worth compared to the risk of infecting thousands of animals.
 
Maybe we could have a huge rally to try and find these tame deer.

Maybe some bring their .50's?



Why am I pissed?

Somebody cut fence. And nobody cares.
 
Doug said:
One more reason to OUTLAW farmed deer. Who knows what disease(s) they might pass to the wild deer, or other animals? Game farms are bad news, period. And I agree that it was likely an "eco-terrorist" who cut the fence, if this is not an insurance scam.

These are NOT cows or domesticated animals, they are FARMED DEER, which MAY pose problems for our absolutely invaluable wildlife. Ask the guys out west who are seeing diseases in wildlife brought on by escaped game farm animals. Want some CWD with your venison jerky?

And BTW I live in Kingston and you can absolutely count on it, if I see any or all of those deer, I WILL shoot them. Whether any of you like that or not, I don't give a damn. They are VARMINTS, nothing more and nothing less, and do not belong in the wild. Period, end of discussion as far as I am concerned. Too bad for the lady who chose to engage in an activity that might have negative consequences for native species.

Doug
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What he said,that's why the fallow deer here on the Island can be shot. The species tag must be filled of course.
 
Not like they are going to breed while on the loose. And they don't look like a whitetail at all. Still, some dink will likely take a crack at one.

How do you know that?
Wasn't that originally the issue with pen-raised "wild" turkeys?
 
Ski911 said:
I think I found one of those deer....
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Do they all look like this or is this one the runt ?:wave:
 
Doug said:
back to sheephunter...........it is being reported as fact here by our provincial hunting association. I did most certainly understand that CWD in particular had been transmitted to wildlife by escaped farmed elk. If this is not true, I would very much welcome a link to a scientific source.......with much thanks!

Doug
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Not saying it's not true but the link hasn't been proven yet..........not even in Ontario.
 
Doug said:
back to whammy (and catnthehatt)...........I would not intend to find out what the courts might think. I do not report to the courts when I shoot any other varmint, and other than stating what I WOULD DO in a hypothetical situation, I cannot think that I would report the shooting of a "fallow" varmint either. Nor would I think it a good idea to (for example) blather on about it here. S/S/S and all that good stuff, or as I am fond of saying, the maximum number of people who can keep a secret is ONE. ;)

I think I am going to see what the local media has reported about all of this....

Doug
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S/S/S??!! Wasn't that a phrase coined by our past premier??:D
Cat
 
I don't know how Canadian Law works, but if someone else cattle were to come on to my land, then it becomes my cow. So long as it's not branded, or they come and pick them up within 48 hours. I doubt these deer were branded, so; GAME ON! ;) (kidding of course, but still...) Why would you want exotic deer? That's like having an exotic cat I guess. It's still nothing but a cat to me.
 
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Doc M said:
A point nobody's really raised is that this flagrant vandalism and destruction of property wasn't done by hunters and shooters, but rather by some left-wing "eco-terrorist". PETA, Greenpeace, etc. types.

Why nobody rags on these idiots for the laws they break - constantly - is absolutely confounding.

-M
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Cause it's easy to ban guns. Banning stupidity is a lot harder.
 
catnthehatt said:
I'm of the same opinion as you as far as farmed deer are concerned Doug, but
the Government views them as privately owned livestock, same as escaped bison, lamas or cattle.
Hope everything works out for you if you do shoot one and get charged, myself, I wouldn't want the court headache.......
Cat
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I was recently told by the RCMP and the CO's in my area, Sask, that i can shoot the loose bison that have been running around the area for over a year now. KEY point being that if they are ON MY LAND. One of the bison charged me the other day, that fake 5 foot warning charge like a bear does, in my front yard at the farm. Should have shot it, but did the right thing and called the RCMP and CO's for a little legal advise. Don't want the firearms taken away.

Somebody should be shooting those exotics. The lady stated IF she could get her hands on a tranq. gun, you'd think the co's or the animal cops would be willing to help out pretty quick?!

D
 
Broich said:
I was recently told by the RCMP and the CO's in my area, Sask, that i can shoot the loose bison that have been running around the area for over a year now. KEY point being that if they are ON MY LAND. One of the bison charged me the other day, that fake 5 foot warning charge like a bear does, in my front yard at the farm. Should have shot it, but did the right thing and called the RCMP and CO's for a little legal advise. Don't want the firearms taken away.

Somebody should be shooting those exotics. The lady stated IF she could get her hands on a tranq. gun, you'd think the co's or the animal cops would be willing to help out pretty quick?!

D
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In Alberta, livestock is still considered to be owned by the original owner, even if it has gotten out of a compound or field, and considered their property.
Might be different in other provinces....
Cat
 
catnthehatt said:
In Alberta, livestock is still considered to be owned by the original owner, even if it has gotten out of a compound or field, and considered their property.
Might be different in other provinces....
Cat
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And as farmed deer and elk are controlled by Alberta Agriculture, I suspect they are protected too........not sure about Ontario but something to check on.
 
sheephunter said:
And as farmed deer and elk are controlled by Alberta Agriculture, I suspect they are protected too........not sure about Ontario but something to check on.
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Yup, forgot to mention the part of deer, bison ,etc being considered livestock!
Not that i really consider them as such, because I am not in favour of game ranching, but the Government does....
Cat
 
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