Don't take your Black Rifle to PoCo!

Six Star said:
Ken...I was the only person on the range that morning with an AR15. I was NOT shooting "rapid fire", as I was zeroing in a new EOTech. My fire was slow and deliberate...so there was nobody shooting "like a machine gun". I'm an old cheapskate; I don't like "blasting" off ammo just for the sake of doing so and take my marksmanship very seriously.



Ken...The call came from the range....from the Firing Line....both John and the cop confirmed this at the time. If you choose to doubt this, it's your privilege. :) (Edited to add: And I certainly respect your right to your own opinion, Ken)



Bingo. But this time "they" was one of us. ;)
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I keep hoping we are better than this, maybe I'm just kidding myself.

KTK
 
Tumbleweed said:
Instead of approaching the fellow who called the RCMP with a lynching rope, why not approach with an olive branch and calmly find out why he called the police.

or, you could just walk up to him and kick him in the nuts, jam his Model 94 Winchester up his ass, and go away feeling a whole lot better....:D
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If I'm deaf to anything it is fellow gun owners who have views "against" certain types of guns, I can deal with the antis but not one of our own, I'm for kicking him in the nuts...then educating him by shoving the canoe paddle up his ass.:D
 
Ken The Kanuck said:
I keep hoping we are better than this, maybe I'm just kidding myself.

KTK
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I feel exactly the same way, Ken....I guess we just have to try to maintain our optimism, no matter how many times we're blindsided by actions like the doofus at PoCo. ;) I truly hope that it was an isolated incident and that it doesn't happen to me or anyone else ("black rifle" shooter OR "hunter") again. We need to stand together to preserve our right (however tenuous) to own and enjoy our firearms. :)
 
Just read this post now and I am not totally shocked to hear what happened. There are a lot of uneducated people out there that believe everything they see in the news papers or in the movies, etc. Black guns are automatically evil and full auto (totally evil!). Some hunters that I know still don't see a connection between a semi ban and their hunting semi shotgun or their bolt action sniper hunting rifle.


667 said:
Ahhhhhhhh the division between shooters is alive and well....

'Funny thread over at arfcom about the exact same thing... Entitled something like:
"Have the Fudds invaded your favorite range yet?"

"Fudds" of course referring to Elmer Fudd... the hapless hunter of Buggs Bunny fame...

Seems our American cousins have the same issue with hunters showing up for their annual sight in and making all sorts of stink over AR's etc...
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Hey!! What did I do? I weally don't think I should be lumped in with "hapless hunters" just because I like wabbit meat! :D


echo4lima said:
Ya only need 60 more posts "Spawn of Satan" :)
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Don't worry BC_Guy... I just past "his number" and nothing happened... it sure has been cold this week though... :rolleyes:


Ken The Kanuck said:
Maybe some others don't like the sound? There are plans to put an additional 26000 people on the mountain over the next 20 years. Undoubtably those who use PoCo have noticed the clearing and the new roads and paving almost up to the club. Also right at the club is the drop off spot for the mountain bikers and hikers.
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And it is up to the club membership to make sure that the municipal council knows that your club was there first and is important to the comunity. Same thing happens around smaller airports. People start putting house at the end of the runway and then start complaining about the noise and "safety" and that the airport should be closed or restricted, etc. :mad:


Ken The Kanuck said:
When several people fire semi-autos at the same time it can sound a lot like a machine gun.
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Actually when several bolt action guns fire at the same time it can sound like machine gun fire. Just ask the Germans when a group of Lee Enfields were being fired during the war.


Well, gotta wun now... I think the wabbit stew is nearly done! :D


Fudd
 
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Thank you all
for the great post fellows
Myself as a new person to this hobby/sport
living in the lowermainland, not knowing which club is which
with from what is posted here, I will not be signing up @ the Poco club

Cheers
24/7
 
Great follow up Cheers

Six Star said:
Update :)

I sent an email describing the incident to the President of PoCo, Murray Gardner and received a very positive, supportive and encouraging response from him. :) Thanks Murray!
As a result of our email exchange, I will continue to be a member at the Poco Club. I am satisfied that everything possible will be done by the Executive and Range staff to ensure that this type of unfortunate incident does not occur again. However, as Murray pointed out in his email, while the highest safety standards are maintained on the range, it is almost impossible to control the unsafe use of a cell phone. ;)
I feel a great deal better about the whole incident as a result of Murray's response, but will be more aware that there are (sadly) anti-gunners in our own firearms community.
I also applaud the RCMP member who used his discretion to regard the whole situation as a "non-event". Thanks for that.
Just to add: I am not "anti-hunter"...if you read through the thread, you'll see that I was actually at PoCo that morning sighting in 3 hunting rifles for my son and his two buddies. While I don't hunt myself, I encourage anyone who wants to go hunting to do so. It's what makes us Canadian.
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Yes this is what makes us Canadian :)
24/7
 
24/7 said:
Thank you all
for the great post fellows
Myself as a new person to this hobby/sport
living in the lowermainland, not knowing which club is which
with from what is posted here, I will not be signing up @ the Poco club

Cheers
24/7
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Spoke with the RO yesterday and it may have been a day carder who made the call. PoCo's a pretty good club. I'm always amazed at the variety of firearms and the different disciplines that shoot there. I wouldn't let the actions of a non-member affect your decision in joining PoCo.....
 
24/7 said:
Thank you all
for the great post fellows
Myself as a new person to this hobby/sport
living in the lowermainland, not knowing which club is which
with from what is posted here, I will not be signing up @ the Poco club

Cheers
24/7
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I'd ask you to reconsider, 24/7...if I'm willing to renew my membership after this episode, then you should not feel that you will not be welcome there. As I've mentioned previously, I'm satisfied that this was an anomaly and the likelihood of it happening again is almost nil. ;)
 
Ken The Kanuck said:
Good, last thing we need is another newbie arsehole who makes his mind up by what he reads on the internet and never goes up there. Better we get the sort of person who will check things out for themselves and then make a reasoned decision.

KTK
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LMAO @ KTK
Your a treat pal,
To the rest of you that followed through with civil adult like posts eg. misfire, G37, & Six Star. Great informative posts. Now with that said
I would not just take what is posted on the Net as Fact all the time. And yes I will remain open minded when time comes to pick a club. I did like that Murray was positive about the whole thing. And on another note it is a nice looking facility. :)
KTK I'll take some of these posts with a grain of salt, as a newbie, I have alot to learn !
 
The issue of daycarders is an interesting one.

The perception is that daycarders cause much of the vandalism of target stands and general destruction on (unsupervised) ranges. We now quite possibly have an example of a daycarder's poor attitude to the rest of the shooting fraternity ... a lack of solidarity to say the least!

Should clubs end the practice of allowing daycards except when as a guest of a member? Does the selling of daycards allow some people the luxury of thinking that they need make no commitment to the shooting sports in general because, quite frankly, they have nothing invested in it.

Just a thought ... I've heard it batted about at times, but more for the reason of defending club facilities than anything else.
 
Gothmog said:
The issue of daycarders is an interesting one.

The perception is that daycarders cause much of the vandalism of target stands and general destruction on (unsupervised) ranges. We now quite possibly have an example of a daycarder's poor attitude to the rest of the shooting fraternity ... a lack of solidarity to say the least!

Should clubs end the practice of allowing daycards except when as a guest of a member? Does the selling of daycards allow some people the luxury of thinking that they need make no commitment to the shooting sports in general because, quite frankly, they have nothing invested in it.

Just a thought ... I've heard it batted about at times, but more for the reason of defending club facilities than anything else.
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Interesting point Gothmog, perhaps this should be a seperate topic but my issue with daycarders is simply that I don't feel I should have have to wait for a spot to shoot when the range is over run with day carders, I don't mind waiting for card carrying members, they have invested in the club as I have and got there before me, but waiting for some dude to take 4 hours to zero his Mod 70 with a Bushnell rimfire scope while complaining about a lack of zero retention...painful.
 
24/7 said:
LMAO @ KTK
Your a treat pal,
To the rest of you that followed through with civil adult like posts eg. misfire, G37, & Six Star. Great informative posts. Now with that said
I would not just take what is posted on the Net as Fact all the time. And yes I will remain open minded when time comes to pick a club. I did like that Murray was positive about the whole thing. And on another note it is a nice looking facility. :)
KTK I'll take some of these posts with a grain of salt, as a newbie, I have alot to learn !
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Well Bud some of us take a lot of pride in our club. We donate time and money to make it better. Last year although not many of us shoot a lot of skeet the club needed a fence so trap and skeet could be shot at the same time.

I'd guess that about a dozen of us donated a day, tools, etc. to build that fencing. Some of the guys did more. It is difficult to get the trap machine up and down in the high skeet house, so we made a lifting bar and donated a small chainfall and rigging.


Lots of people do a lot more !!!!

They deserve more respect than all to be lumped in with one #######.

Nuff said,

KTK
 
Ive recently decided to join the POCO club. I was with TMSA and often use the daycards whenever I get to POCO to utilize the 150-250 distances. Its a great range and is great for people in the GVRD. POCO is well run and convenient.

I was there with friends this weekend (on daycards) when three punk ass ganster-wanna be types showed up with their bag of recently purchased ammo and a baggy-gangsta type outfits (If I make a negative stereotype its intentional) Within the first 20 minutes they were warned verbally by the R.O. to watch their muzzle control as they crossed people with the muzzle of their rifles (SKS and shotguns).

Needless to say this made people nervous and other shooters started leaving slowly. It was akward, and my shooting buddy wanted to get off the range ASAP, although I was intent on getting my $15 dollars worth.

The R.O. watched these kids and made sure that all was safe. On an unrelated note I was told that someone had walked away with my rifle sling (perhaps by accident) as we too close to the exit. Loosing a $50 sling ruined my day but made me realize that you have to watch ALL of your gear closely at any public range. This is something that I never worried about in Ontario but maybe Ive been just lucky.

Overall a Great Range. Blackrifle shooters dont be discouraged !! John and the other R.O.s are definately top notch.
 
This is what makes a great club

Ken The Kanuck said:
Well Bud some of us take a lot of pride in our club. We donate time and money to make it better. Last year although not many of us shoot a lot of skeet the club needed a fence so trap and skeet could be shot at the same time.

I'd guess that about a dozen of us donated a day, tools, etc. to build that fencing. Some of the guys did more. It is difficult to get the trap machine up and down in the high skeet house, so we made a lifting bar and donated a small chainfall and rigging.


Lots of people do a lot more !!!!

KTK
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Is what makes a Club great, and would make me want to come there , this is a team like atmosphere, and would attract new members knowing there is peeps that like this, a place they can call home ,and be proud to be a member there.
Cheers to you KTK
I miss judged the place, which was wrong because of one persons action

Peace
24/7
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Ken The Kanuck said:
They deserve more respect than all to be lumped in with one a**hole.

Nuff said,

KTK
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Ken...I don't think anyone is lumping in every PoCo MEMBER with that one #######. Not at all. It was a daycarder who did the damage. I think it's time (despite the considerable revenue that daycarders provide) to make it a condition that daycarders can only shoot on the range if a GUEST of a MEMBER. Times have changed, Ken...the "old days" are dead and gone forever. We live in stupid times amongst stupid people, who quite simply cannot be trusted to behave responsibly.
I (and I'm sure many of the others posting in this thread) have the utmost respect for the longtime members of PoCo and particularly the members who have devoted a considerable amount of their own FREE time to upgrade and maintain the range and range facilities.
 
Just read some of this thread..THougth I woud commnet on the ssue of day passes.

We don't allow it at ur range, not for a loong time. Moslty because of vandalism and stuff..Members can bring guests or join up and contribute.:)
 
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