Down the rabbit hole again with the 9.3x62mm Mauser...

I have a Husqvarna 1640 in 9.3x62. It's an awesome elk catcher, but goshdarnit all to heck does it kick. It's mounted in a skinny schnabel stock. Not scoped yet, but weighs just north of 7 lbs.

I have another 1640, in 30-06, but in a heavy aftermarket stock. I was thinking of swapping the stocks, since I feed the '06 with 165gr and the heavy stock has a limbsaver on it. The '06 weighs just shy of 9 lbs.

Would you swap them?
 
The weight makes a big difference to the felt recoil energy, which feels about the same as shooting 180 grn 3006 to me.

ruger m77 hawkeye african 9.3x62 - this has a 23" medium heavy contour barrel - leupold vx-freedom 1.5-4x20mm moa - 9.164 lbs - with four rounds or 9.550 lbs - with four rounds and sling - OAL 43.5"1 - Ruger M77 African 9.3x62 with Leupold VX-Freedom 1-4x20mm.jpg
 
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I have a Husqvarna 1640 in 9.3x62. It's an awesome elk catcher, but goshdarnit all to heck does it kick. It's mounted in a skinny schnabel stock. Not scoped yet, but weighs just north of 7 lbs.

I have another 1640, in 30-06, but in a heavy aftermarket stock. I was thinking of swapping the stocks, since I feed the '06 with 165gr and the heavy stock has a limbsaver on it. The '06 weighs just shy of 9 lbs.

Would you swap them?
I would...

Bushnell's Elite 4500 2.5-10x40 weighs 1.25 lbs (19.7oz). Mounting a scope & swapping stocks, would tame the recoil of your 9.3x62 considerably.
 
ANY Brass works fine for the first reload, and gives you a pretty good idea what load(s) might work. Sure, it is nice to have top-quality brass, but not at all necessary, certainly for load development and range practice. JMOYMV
Doug is right.

All I've ever used is re-sized 30-06 with great results. There is a thread or two on CGN that explains the process.

285's over a slightly compressed load of Re17 is my go-to. Less of Re15 is a close second.
 
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I have a Husqvarna 1640 in 9.3x62. It's an awesome elk catcher, but goshdarnit all to heck does it kick. It's mounted in a skinny schnabel stock. Not scoped yet, but weighs just north of 7 lbs.

I have another 1640, in 30-06, but in a heavy aftermarket stock. I was thinking of swapping the stocks, since I feed the '06 with 165gr and the heavy stock has a limbsaver on it. The '06 weighs just shy of 9 lbs.

Would you swap them?
I have a Husky Commercial FN Mauser with a similar stock and with the mount and old Tasco 1.5-5 x 24 weighs under 8 lbs. If I am going to shoot more than 5 rounds, I slip on the Limb-saver and strap on the wearable pad. I can then fire a box of 20 fairly robust home-loads using 286 gr. PPU JSP round nose bullets. Not uncommon to have three shots touching; love the rifle and love the caliber!
 
Doug is right.

All I've ever used is re-sized 30-06 with great results. There is a thread or two on CGN that explains the process.

285's over a slightly compressed load of Re17 is my go-to. Less of Re15 is a close second.
I have started doing this a few months ago; they do require substantial trimming after resizing.
 
I think it's all about stock design. My re-stocked Husqvarna '62 is quite manageable & I usually shoot at least 4 5-shot groups with it when it goes with me to the range. It does, however, seem to kick more than my Whitworth Safari in .375 H&H. Compare that to a recently-purchased Remo 9x57, which kicks all out of proportion to its theoretical recoil.
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Alright gentlemen, first range trip completed & I am HAPPY!!!

I bore sighted the rifle at 50m. Fired 3 shots, adjusting the scope after each shot, with the 3rd shot landing about a 1/2" low of bullseye.

Took the rifle to 100m and the 1st shot was low, just off the splatter target. Adjusted the scope & fired the 3 shot group on the right. Adjusted again & fired the 3 shot group on the left. HAPPY!!!

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Keep in mind that I'm no sniper, a decent shot yes, but... You get the idea. AND, I only have the Hornady ammunition, so I am pleased with the results! Oh, and 10 shots with the "Black Beauty" was enough off the bench lol! Recoil is more than my 35 Whelen, but less than my 300 WSM which I find has a very sharp recoil pulse.

Thanks for following along down the rabbit hole guys, I've enjoyed the whole process of sourcing another 9.3x62, albeit NOT a semi!!!

Cheers
Jay

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Looks like you got a shooter, congrats. 👍. My experience with the Sauer 100 has been mixed. The first 100 I bought shot quite well and I bought another one in a different calibre, the second one had minute of barn door accuracy and got returned for warranty. The replacement was better than the first but nothing to write home about. With my experience it seems Sauer quality control is very inconsistent, don’t think I would buy another one.
 
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Andy what's your load for fire forming the 30/06 to 9.3?

I don't fire form 9.3X62, but for other cartridges of this capacity and bore I use 15 grs of Unique under toilet tissue.

What I do is form a false shoulder, then size minimally with the 9.3X62 F/L die (forming a good shoulder), anneal it, and then seat a bullet 50 thou into the lands and fire the gun with a starting load. On first firing it should fill out completely and from there you're good to go.

I ordered a 416 Rem Expander/Decapper through Higginsons. It's Part Number SE2935 and cost about $12 shipped. It was not in stock so I had to wait until the next shipment, which are multiple times/year. Here's a pic of it showing its nice long transition to 41 Cal. It's shown installed in a 45-70 Die Body, but many Lee Die Bodies with a neck size of at least 40 Cal will work. Lube the neck well, and you'll get an almost straight body (looks like a 405 Win). I've also used it on other cartidges to open them up for the same reason.

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Of course fire forming will often expand it enough to form a shoulder on one firing, and then you use a Start Load firing to fill it out, but this is once and done.
 
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I have several rifles in 9.3x62. I reform and trim 30/06 brass and shoot 200 grain cast powder coated gas check bullets at 2000 fps for fun.
Recoil is the same as the 9.3x57 with the 200 grain cast bullet. And it is fun and rewarding to shoot.
I developed my loads using Gordon's Reloading Tool (Freeware) , 35 Whelan data, and a chronograph. 5 shot Groups at 100 meters range from 1" to 5" depending on powder and velocity.
My conversion of 30/06 brass is to anneal the neck and shoulder, polish, then expand to 0.412 then run through a Hornaday 9.3x62 sizing die.
Then trim to 62mm. Then another polishing, then chamfer the mouth of the case, prime, and load a 200 grain cast bullet.
I have 250 grain Noslers for hunting - but 200 cast make great plinking rounds.
 
ruger m77 hawkeye african 9.3x62 - this has a 23" medium heavy contour barrel - leupold vx-freedom 1.5-4x20mm moa - 9.164 lbs - with four rounds or 9.550 lbs - with four rounds and sling - OAL 43.5"View attachment 969076
Sharp looking rifle, which reticle does your scope have? I was looking at them recently but wanted a plain duplex and not the moa ring or pig plex reticle’s.
 
augh.....

now you did it, I'm going to have to dig out the 9.3x62 I got a few auctions ago. I think its a Husqvarna and it has some odd scope mounting rail offset on the left side of the receiver.

found a photo of it, bottom rifle
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looks like it does not have the odd side rail, that was on the 6.5x55

both rifles are tucked away in one of my gunlockers.... somewhere
 
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Sharp looking rifle, which reticle does your scope have? I was looking at them recently but wanted a plain duplex and not the moa ring or pig plex reticle’s.
MOA ring, I do not think you can get a plain duplex reticle on the 1.5-4x20 mm scope. I have a Leupold VX-Freedom 2-7x33mm with a hunt plex reticle on a Ruger m77 RSI gen 2 in 3006
 
MOA ring, I do not think you can get a plain duplex reticle on the 1.5-4x20 mm scope. I have a Leupold VX-Freedom 2-7x33mm with a hunt plex reticle on a Ruger m77 RSI gen 2 in 3006
How do you like the moa ring, not too busy? They discontinued the plain duplex in the 1.5-4x20 VX Freedom from what I gather, if they offered it in the hunt plex I’d pick one up.

Have looked through both the 2-7 and 3-9 with the hunt plex and I liked it.
 
I suppose the polite thing to do is to invite you along while I go down the rabbit hole 'yet again' with the 9.3x62mm Mauser cartridge designed by Otto Bock back in 1905...
Why do we do that? We get set up all proper like for a rifle/cartridge combo and then sell it all off only to do it all over again.

I've had a few 358Winchesters over the years, some nice, and sold them all knowing that a 358Winchester really does not have anything to offer over a 308 or 30-06. I recently came into a good deal on an entire loading setup for the 358 and am now considering looking for a bbl to go on a 700 action I have in a nice Brown Precision. I know I don't need another rifle and have been diligent on reducing the load in the safe. It's a sickness, I'm sure. :)
 
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