Elcan SpecterOS 3.0

I was going to put an aimpoint on my 12.5" shorty as I run an os4x on my New IUR upper and was going to go with a lighter smaller red dot...... But........

At this price the elcan os3x could very well be the ticket. The weight should be fine, I ran the os4x on the 12.5 for CQB for a season and had no issues there. Thanks for this info.
 
zxcvbn said:
I believe these are slightly different (checked Elcan's site) but I know very little about scopes. Anyone care to point out the difference(s)? The CSC one has an external ballistic adjustment and the CanadaAmmo one does not? Many thanks.
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I found the manual on line, here is the link, if this violates the rules please feel free to remove it. http://www.armament.com/sites/default/files/specteros3x_manual.pdf

The "A" model has a calibrated ballistic reticle and covered adjustment caps. So once zeroed to 100 you must use the aiming ladder of the reticle for shooting at different distances.

The "B" model has a centre aiming reticle , with calibrated turrets that you would dial to match the distance being shot at. So once zeroed you must dial the turrets to the range required.

I think that explains it, B model seems to be a good choice for me.
 
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Canadian eh! said:
I found the manual on line at a us vendor, as no one can buy from them here anyway , here is the link, if this violates the rules please feel free to remove it. http://www.armament.com/sites/default/files/specteros3x_manual.pdf

The "A" model has a calibrated ballistic reticle and covered adjustment caps. So once zeroed to 100 you must use the aiming ladder of the reticle for shooting at different distances.

The "B" model has a centre aiming reticle , with calibrated turrets that you would dial to match the distance being shot at. So once zeroed you must dial the turrets to the range required.

I think that explains it, B model seems to be a good choice for me.
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Thanks.
 
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Canadian eh! said:
I found the manual on line at a us vendor, as no one can buy from them here anyway , here is the link, if this violates the rules please feel free to remove it. http://www.armament.com/sites/default/files/specteros3x_manual.pdf

The "A" model has a calibrated ballistic reticle and covered adjustment caps. So once zeroed to 100 you must use the aiming ladder of the reticle for shooting at different distances.

The "B" model has a centre aiming reticle , with calibrated turrets that you would dial to match the distance being shot at. So once zeroed you must dial the turrets to the range required.

I think that explains it, B model seems to be a good choice for me.
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Good to know. Kind of wish we could have the best of both worlds. A sight picture with an aiming ladder AND adjustable dials. That way you could practice quick distance reaction shots with the ladder or taking your time adjusting the sight to zero at your reticle center for better precision.

Either way, I guess it is nice to have the option for different styles of shooter. For someone sticking to ~100m, the ladder is better as far out shots will rarely be made. For those able to use the 100, 200, 400, 600 etc often, they can purchase the ability to alter their sight to do so.
 
I have both and was pretty impressed with them. I beat them each pretty hard on separate week long shooting courses including dropping them repeatedly and immersing them in water and shooting them in heavy rain.

They both held zero and the turrets tracked and returned very well. The glass was very bright and showed its transmission performance late in the day on the overcast and rainy days. The illumination is pretty clear, but could use a few more low settings.

The BDC was bang on to 400 with 62 gr from a 15.7"

I prefer the marksman version with turrets, but I would rather it had finer graduations than 1/2 MOA.
 
Jacobean said:
Good to know. Kind of wish we could have the best of both worlds. A sight picture with an aiming ladder AND adjustable dials. That way you could practice quick distance reaction shots with the ladder or taking your time adjusting the sight to zero at your reticle center for better precision.

Either way, I guess it is nice to have the option for different styles of shooter. For someone sticking to ~100m, the ladder is better as far out shots will rarely be made. For those able to use the 100, 200, 400, 600 etc often, they can purchase the ability to alter their sight to do so.
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HaHa yes I too would prefer that set up. Ironically the "more expensive scope", the "B", is being offered at a lower price...this Elcan link shows the two different reticles: http://www.armament.com/specter-3x-optical-sight

I'm guessing an accomplished shooter, not I, could adapt to either but would probably prefer the option of fine adjustment.
 
Jacobean said:
Good to know. Kind of wish we could have the best of both worlds. A sight picture with an aiming ladder AND adjustable dials. That way you could practice quick distance reaction shots with the ladder or taking your time adjusting the sight to zero at your reticle center for better precision but that would mean giving up overall adjustment range. Meh, I've beaten him with mine before. LOL (though last time we competed he spanked me pretty good)

Either way, I guess it is nice to have the option for different styles of shooter. For someone sticking to ~100m, the ladder is better as far out shots will rarely be made. For those able to use the 100, 200, 400, 600 etc often, they can purchase the ability to alter their sight to do so.
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I also use the adjustments for short range POA/POI adjustments. Same can be done with a ballistic drop reticle of course. Different methods for different folks.

Ability to dial on wind is a real positive SR as well.

MattK makes a point on adjustments being a bit coarse for precision but 1/2 MOA is still adjusting inside my rifles ability to group so it works for me.
 
Jacobean said:
Good to know. Kind of wish we could have the best of both worlds. A sight picture with an aiming ladder AND adjustable dials. That way you could practice quick distance reaction shots with the ladder or taking your time adjusting the sight to zero at your reticle center for better precision.
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I bet you could order the BDC turrets from Armament Technology to put on the A model. I've found them very responsive to questions. Email them and ask.
 
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