Enfield AIA mags--How legal are they?
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Sporting Lad
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Hunting with ten?
I'm not a big game hunter, so IDK-- is it even legal to hunt with a ten round mag? Only if it's an Enfield?
70-75 $ may seem steep for an "M-14" mag, but this will be a (relatively) small production run--they won't be making millions of them, or even tens of thousands, so there's not the economy of scale there.
Do you know a less expensive way to get around this stupid law?
I'm not a big game hunter, so IDK-- is it even legal to hunt with a ten round mag? Only if it's an Enfield?
70-75 $ may seem steep for an "M-14" mag, but this will be a (relatively) small production run--they won't be making millions of them, or even tens of thousands, so there's not the economy of scale there.
Do you know a less expensive way to get around this stupid law?
Blastattack
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Sunray is completely and 100% wrong as usual. For hunting, the magazine capacity is defined by the provincial hunting regs, and if not defined there, it reverts to the Federal laws. Manual-actioned firearms (bolt, pump, lever etc.) have no maximum magazine capacity EVER. Likewise, rimfire long-arms have no maximum capacity either.
Blastattack
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The Lee Enfield clause is an exemption to the 5 round magazine law because of the existence of automatic "enfield" conversions. It has nothing to with natives. Manual-actioned firearms HAVE NO MAGAZINE CAPACITY LIMIT.
Barnes_270
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I know you're thinking about rifles, but manual action (e.g. pump) shotguns DO have magazine restrictions for hunting when using shot.
Sporting Lad
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Daaaagh! I knew I was thinking about something... SHOTGUNS! 
^] Sorry.
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Those restrictions exist under provincial law. We are discussing magazine restrictions under the federal firearms act. Manual shotguns and rifles have no magazine limits under the federal firearms act.
Barnes_270
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True enough, but some of the posts might be misleading to folks who don't know the issues in the provincial hunting regs - someone said they have "no mag restrictions, ever", for example. You and I know what he means, but someone new to firearms and hunting could get into trouble if they took that at face value.
Blastattack
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I guess if those newbies only read half of what was posted, yes they may come to that conclusion.
I will agree that at face value and out of context my statement could be misleading, but the preceding statement should be sufficient to get the "hunting regs" part across.
The lois gun was a machine gun made out of a lee enfield rifle. There was a canadain version made as well (it was a protype very few were made since it breaks to easy) The idea was to get more machine guns on the field durning WW2 so they converted a bolt action rifle into a machine gun with the fewest amount of changes possible to keep production time low. It was a jamamoatic and would break 50 percent of the time so it was scraped. They also had 25 round magazines for the lee enfield rifle as well they also worked in some other firearm that was a machine gun I can't remember which one they made it for. So people complained well what about this rare gun so does that mean I have to pin my bolt action due to a very rare firearm that was converted into a full auto. They went ok no more then 10 done. People were also going well what if I just make all my magazines a lee enfield magazine and chamber it for what ever caliber I want then I have no limit for all my guns. People pointed the fact someone could make something so they changed it for that 1 rifle. It was part of the big debate back then and there were allot of angry people.
Why do you think most partys stay away from guns alltogther or say very few things about them. They kicked the hornets nest and the angry people came out and stung them for it. large mobs of angry people scare the crap out of the government people because if someone is mad enough to come out and actually say something they most likely also vote.
I believe the AIA magazines NRM are taking preorders for are going to be pinned to ten rounds, eg, 10/20.
As it is a .308 based on an AIA mag well, different than an old Lee Enfield magazine, I wonder if that pin is really needed.
The Lee Enfield clause in the act is confusing. Is it just an exception for any Enfield magazines that might otherwise be prohibited? Are all Enfield mags otherwise prohibited, including 308 win mags?
As it is a .308 based on an AIA mag well, different than an old Lee Enfield magazine, I wonder if that pin is really needed.
The Lee Enfield clause in the act is confusing. Is it just an exception for any Enfield magazines that might otherwise be prohibited? Are all Enfield mags otherwise prohibited, including 308 win mags?
Blastattack
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Why do people keep perpetuating this myth? NR Magazine has never said this is the case and I cannot understand why anyone would think it is. They are 10 , 20 and 25 round magazines designed for use in a bolt-action rifle. What part of that is so difficult for people to understand?
Because the law specifies magazines designed for an enfield need to be pinned to 10. I'd appreciate it if someone can clear this up and why the AIA isn't considered an enfield. Just for curiosity, not as a complaint.
Discussed in detail on the NR Magazine thread. See post #115 for a succinct explanation.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/foru...PRE-ORDERS**?p=9813139&viewfull=1#post9813139
I ordered mine. $75 is a fair investment to what could be the beginning of 'see, you gave us some responsibility and we didn't blow our deeks off with it', in regards to the whole mag cap thing. Like a bunch of tiny loop holes opening up so eventually we don't have magazine limits on anything.
And if they do become prohib, it's not like they're registered so it could be just as easy as burying it in the backyard and forgetting you owned it. There's worse ways to spend $75.
And if they do become prohib, it's not like they're registered so it could be just as easy as burying it in the backyard and forgetting you owned it. There's worse ways to spend $75.
Exactly, they are not designed for the Lee-enfield specifically. They are designated for a seperate bolt action .308. If they fit in anything else, legal.
I'm not sure I understand your previous posts, but in Sk. We have capacity limits on any centerfire rifle while big game hunting. As well as the federal waterfowl laws for shotguns. But I understand we're not discussing that.
This is a game changer. I predict the m305 will rapidly become the most popular center fire semi-automatic rifle in Canada, if it is not already.
I have pre-ordered four 20 round mags and already I regret that I did not put in a larger order. I currently have three 10 round AIA mags and they work great, I am really looking forward to this!
I have pre-ordered four 20 round mags and already I regret that I did not put in a larger order. I currently have three 10 round AIA mags and they work great, I am really looking forward to this!
It's a game changer for sure. I can't predict how the anti's both within the RCMP and without will react, but somebody better send the Steve Blaney a memo so he can't continue to plead ignorance to the issues!
If they are doing any sort of re write, now would be the time to address mag capacity in a positive way.
It never even occurred to me that they wouldn't be pinned to 10 rounds, I have AIA mags that are 10 rounds, and I was aware that there was language in the Act stating that Lee-Enfield mags were 10 rounds. I had actually wondered myself why an AIA magazine would need to comply with that but just grateful that I could get a 10 rounder.
Hilariously, I had already pre-ordered four of the NRM 20 round AIA mags thinking I was getting a 10/20 mag and thinking that was great. Now that I know they are 20/20, wow -- I am ecstatic!
