Euthenising an injured deer; ethics vs legality

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Brother had to finish one off with his knife a couple weeks ago, 2 does hit and one with broken back legs still alive. Called OPP next day for insurance purposes for damage to truck and they had no problem with it. They were busy with accident calls that week as weather was bad and said they wouldn't have responded anyway if they had called when it happened. Their main concern is that the deer were dragged off the road so no one else hit them and no one was hurt in the collision.
 
The F&W up here are pretty good about stuff like annals hit on the road by vehicles .

However, if some ###### wanted to charge me for putting an animal out of it's misery let him - I won't stand by and let an animal suffer .
Besides I have a barrister friend who would love nothing more than to represent me in court over so something like this - there would be very little left of the officer's pride or his charges after that guy was finished with him!!
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Okay quick question - having never had to do the deed - if you're gonna shoot it, are you shooting the vitals or the head? I know the head is quicker, but makes a bit of a mess and could be even more traumatizing for any bystanders, especially with any death spasms and whatever.

Sounds like a dumb question, I know. I'd personally shoot in the head, but especially if it's moving around a lot, might be tougher shot. Obviously if you can get close enough, it's not a problem, but a wounded buck or moose, I'd like to stay outside of stabbing/bashing raange.
 
Head shot is the best.
From the front: Draw an imaginary line from the left ear to the right eye and from the right ear to the left eye.
Hit the "X" at 90 degrees when facing straight on.
From the rear: Depending on the size of the animal, 1 to 3 inches below the poll and aim for the nose. A coyote (dog) has a small bum on the back of his head and the base of that bump is about right. Just to satisfy your own curiosity, check out dogs with various sized skulls . . . lap dog to great big ones.
If a knife is the only option, use one pushing motion where your would envision the juncture of the jaw bone and the bottom of the neck vertebrae and then cut down. Beware of possible spray.
I have seen a calf's skull crushed with the blunt side of an axe and it ain't a pretty sight.
From the side with a rifle, a "medulla interruption" is quick as well if you have a good idea of the location for the 3rd vertebrae.
After getting the names of witnesses to the previous events . . . thank them kindly and ask them to move on. Safety is a concern.
Even the most traumatized witnesses could be your most vicious opponent if they reason you did not do it right. Too many movies where the victim did not shift an inch from where he bit the bullet. Keep in mind they are always free to do it themselves but clearing the area is always safe.

If something was missed . . . forgive me "Father" if I have sinned!
 
A guy plowed into a doe with an f150 just outside of neepawa on highway 5, I saw the deer drag itself off into some long grass and stopped. The guy in the truck was looking at his grill and I inquired if he was going to finish off the doe. He looked at me like I had asked him to murder babies with a hammer. I kinda scoffed and walked into the ditch, found the deer and cut its throat. The guy followed me and was staring at me in absolute horror. I told him to call the nro's and tell them what happened and drove off, my 8 year old daughter who was in the car asked why that guy didn't kill the deer as he had hit it, my six year old daughter answered "cause he was scared" I agreed.
 
Petamocto said:
My friend has come across a couple deer that had been hit by cars but were still alive. He took a quick pic to show the nature of the injury, then called the Ministry (this was in Ontario) to ask if he could finish it off, and both times he got permission to do it.
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Ontario is better in this matter than most other provinces for some reason. As long as a Peace officer has been notified, in most cases "road kill" can be claimed. (That is as long as the car that hit it wasn't in a field at the time and at night!".
 
I have a few means of putting one down I got a beater 12ga single shot that is always in my vehicle when I am in it I carry a insert with it for .38 special and I carry some mild cast loads with it other then that I also have a old school tire iron(I think these better then the a 4 way) and good a hatchet on my person I always have a knife
 
horseman2 said:
Head shot is the best.
From the front: Draw an imaginary line from the left ear to the right eye and from the right ear to the left eye.
Hit the "X" at 90 degrees when facing straight on.
From the rear: Depending on the size of the animal, 1 to 3 inches below the poll and aim for the nose. A coyote (dog) has a small bum on the back of his head and the base of that bump is about right. Just to satisfy your own curiosity, check out dogs with various sized skulls . . . lap dog to great big ones.
If a knife is the only option, use one pushing motion where your would envision the juncture of the jaw bone and the bottom of the neck vertebrae and then cut down. Beware of possible spray.
I have seen a calf's skull crushed with the blunt side of an axe and it ain't a pretty sight.
From the side with a rifle, a "medulla interruption" is quick as well if you have a good idea of the location for the 3rd vertebrae.
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catnthehatt said:
I shoot the right in the ear or the base of the skull from the back with the 22 - never fails.
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Thank you both - very informative!
 
silen said:
This is why a large blade is always good to carry in the woods and elsewhere... Neck artery... quiet and human enough without getting into unlawful dishcarge dilemas' .
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Watched a guy with a dull multitool blade almost cut his finger off because the multitool didn't have a locking blade. If it was a sharp blade it would have required surgery to repair his hand. As it was he needed stitches. He opted for the multitool over the axe that I had. A good solid axe works pretty decent.
 
silen said:
This is why a large blade is always good to carry in the woods and elsewhere... Neck artery... quiet and human enough without getting into unlawful dishcarge dilemas' .
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That one could be very hazardous to your health. ;) Tried to do the deed with a framing hammer once, not so good either, merely stunned the animal and F& W had to shoot it shortly after.


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Petamocto said:
They're going to make a movie about you called Canadian Driver.
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I can't claim all 50. My brother and old man had some of them as well. I was in the passenger seat when my dad hit the five at one time. He took the axe out and offed the ones that weren't toast we stopped in at a small town store right after and the owner went white as a ghost when we walked in. It was dark out and we didn't realize there was blood splatted all over our faces and jackets. He suggested we clean our faces up before we stopped anywhere else.
 
Brian46 said:
Not worth the risk of breaking the law and facing the consequences for doing the right thing IMO
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Too tough for you...NP.
Not judging; I'm the one who claims to have an urge to see they get a fair shake. I'll take the chance; it's worth it to impart a dignified painless death. Being eaten alive...not if I can do something about it.
Nature take it's course...yeah, right. Oil trucks (that's what hit it) are not a part of nature...we create the issue but don't have the where-with-all to do the right thing?
I'll take the plunge and do the right thing.
Unpleasant...yep.
Got to be done...I'll do it. Sucks but you have to live by the rules you set forth.
 
I once came upon a large gathering at the front gate to the base, 'bout 10 yrs ago. A lady had hit a doe. MPs were present, several vehicles and rubber-neckers. I drove up, couldn't get through, walked up to find out that the animal was alive, broken back, trying to crawl away, but couldn't. MPs could not shoot her due to paperwork, they were waiting for the SRD officers.
I walked back to my car, drove around the blockage up to the deer. No knife. Took a screwdriver from the tool box. Had to hold her down and shoved into her ear. Pretty much the hardest thing I ever did. Got up, walked back to the car, drove away.
Another time, hunting season 2013. Early in the season, I was still shooting gophers. Heading to work. Truck coming toward me. Saw the headlights blink, figured a deer had passed in front of it so I slowed down. Got up to the truck and a saw a large doe on the centre line, trying to get up, again broken back. 6 oilfield workers standing around her. I got out, looked around. Walked back to my truck, loaded my 10/22, walked back, put the muzzle in her ear, pulled the trigger, walked back to my truck. Drove away, while they dragged her off the road.
Don't think anyone called SRD on that one.
 
tokguy said:
Too tough for you...NP.
Not judging; I'm the one who claims to have an urge to see they get a fair shake. I'll take the chance; it's worth it to impart a dignified painless death. Being eaten alive...not if I can do something about it.
Nature take it's course...yeah, right. Oil trucks (that's what hit it) are not a part of nature...we create the issue but don't have the where-with-all to do the right thing?
I'll take the plunge and do the right thing.
Unpleasant...yep.
Got to be done...I'll do it. Sucks but you have to live by the rules you set forth.
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Nothing to do with me not being up to it, I have just seen the consequences of doing so first hand. All you need is the wrong perso to come along and you will be made an example of by the law. It is not worth losing my personal property, pay fines for and no longer have the privaledge to hunt.
 
Ever fought a fight you knew was right...even though you figured you'd get your *ss handed to you?
If it's right, it's right.
Keep driving by then; I'll stop and do the right thing. Why?
'Cause it's the thing to do
Enough said
 
tokguy said:
Ever fought a fight you knew was right...even though you figured you'd get your *ss handed to you?
If it's right, it's right.
Keep driving by then; I'll stop and do the right thing. Why?
'Cause it's the thing to do
Enough said
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I have had to fight for my innocence in court and won. It is very costly and time consuming, it also puts strain on your family and relationships with other people. Quite often damaged beyond repair by the time you get your day in court no matter the outcome. Our society today is such that if you have been accused of something people think you did it no matter what happens in court.

I don't see a need to put myself on the wrong side of the law on purpose when I have seen what it can do to an innocent person and adversley what it can do to someone when they end an animals suffering as you suggest.
 
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