Euthenising an injured deer; ethics vs legality

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Perhaps this ought to be in General Firearms discussion; if so Mod's pls move it.
You come upon an obviously gravely injured deer, well after hours, in a remote location...what are the legal ramifications of 'Giving it an honorable death' vs the coyotes getting it?
Normally the 3 'S's' obviously apply; but what if you are called because it's known you are capable of dealing with it ( as opposed to someone who is not capable...that's why you get the call ).
Now you are dealing with a situation that is not a secret; is there potential for trouble from a CFO or LEO?
I'm referring to AB and Sask; as the provinces vary so much on rules & regulations.
 
Let Nature takes its course....
The can of worms are not worth the hassle if it is reported that you just shot a ( insert wild game animal here).
That or SSS and that you realize that three can keep a secret if two are dead.
Rob
 
My friend has come across a couple deer that had been hit by cars but were still alive. He took a quick pic to show the nature of the injury, then called the Ministry (this was in Ontario) to ask if he could finish it off, and both times he got permission to do it.
 
If you ever got caught or reported for shooting an injured deer on a road allowance, you could end up in deep chit.
I have put the odd one down but had to use a tire iron or hammer. Not a fun job but I hate to see them suffer.
 
I've a friend who came upon 'Nature taking it's course'
The coyote's go for the soft spot first, the hind end...which equates to a deer trying in vain to escape whilst dragging it's intestines. Which I'm sure that 'Vlad the impaler' would approve of; me...not so much.
I know what to do...I'm just wondering what the ramifications would be if a lame brain felt the need to retell the story is all
 
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For real eh? I have two buddies who are cops, and said they would tell someone to shoot it if asked. Both said 'just shoot it' without asking actually.

Why is it illegal? Is it discharging a firearm within the road allowance?
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Nothing to do with firearm...that's a separate issue. Using a knife would be just as illegal. If a Peace Officer gives you permission, then ya, go ahead.
 
Just put the animal out of its' misery .......if worse comes to worse , the Judge can decide if what you did was ethical or not......it is certainly not ethical to let an animal suffer.....
 
I phoned in a broken legged moose once, and told that if I was willing to gut it, and understood that I couldn't keep it, and was willing to direct a CO to the kill site for pick-up to shoot it. My guess is it ended up in some COs freezer, which was fine with me.
 
No questions I would end the suffering. I would rather deal with a headache in court than prolonging suffering.
 
A few months ago my wife hit a fawn. It happened 2 blocks from home, at 6:00am, I was there at 6:08. The animal had an obvious broken back and legs, but still alive.
I didn't call to ask, I knew what needed doing and did it.

I called after the fact, with all the details and location, and was thanked. I was also told not to act on my own if I'm ever in the same situation.

The worst part was the doe stayed within 20' of me the whole time. She never threatened me, but stood there watching me do the deed. It was an awful feeling.

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This was on a fairly busy road, but 6:00am Sunday morning.
I did "it" where it lay, with a knife.
I moved it, then called C.O.
The process of calling took over an hour. There was a redneck neighbor trying to take it, claiming I moved it to his yard. It was on the boulevard between his yard and the road.
I'm in BC
 
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Technically illegal in Alberta, but sometimes common sense has it's place. I'd worry more about being charged with discharging a firearm on a road.

Grizz
 
You are not even supposed to pick up a road kill deer without first buying a permit. I pick up the odd small one close to home for the dogs to eat. I see no problem with it and I hate to see it go to waste. Besides cleaning up the roadway, it helps prevent other preditors (that feed on it) from also being struck by a vehicle and causing damage.
In my mind it seems like a good idea but none the less is still illegal. Go figure....
 
I hit one with my jeep and put it down with my knife as it was squalling and had horrendous injuries. I phoned the RCMP and the y asked only if my vehicle was driveable and made no comment on my putting down the deer.,
 
Most folks would not be a problem, I agree.
Got ' A Call to help' not that long ago.
Discovered after the fact; that the caller (young man) had his phone out trying to get it on video! I wasn't there to pick flowers, so he never got the chance to, there wasn't time for him to even get started...and I don't have to deal with him again anyhow(thank God). But jeezus... "Are you a moron?"
Trying hard to age with grace, but WTF? I suppose it's not a 'this new generation' thing...there were enough pictures of atrocities in WW2, and they were 'The Greatest Generation' it's been written.
Perhaps just it's *ss-clowns throughout the ages, eh?
 
Had this exact situation a few years back. Come upon a minivan with a woman and 3 kids just hit a deer about 30 minutes before dark. Deer was spined and squalling in the middle of the road. Got out to help reached for my knife and realized I had walked out without cleaning out my pockets after changing, No knife. Just happened to be coming from shooing my 50 muzzleloader so ran one down the pipe and dealt with it as the woman and kids were getting more distraught by the minute.

Two minutes later cops show up and wouldn't you know it, New guy. He flips and grabs my gun out of my truck and tosses, literally, it the trunk of his car. Not because I didn't have my wallet or ID but no civilian can own a 50cal. Tossing my gun kind of pissed me off but I know the drill and let him run with it. He then made it clear he would be keeping the gun and me too. I then demanded he inform his direct supervisor and have him attend the scene. After several refusals he made the call as he is required to do. Luck was with me and a close associate was on duty that night and attended as he said"for a laugh" when he heard my name. I work in the courts so I know most of the local cops personally. The supervisor reviewed what happened with both the deer and my gun and went up one side of the newbie and down the other, told him who he was dealing with and told him if the gun was damaged he would personally pay for it. gun was returned forthwith with an apology.

Would I do it again No and this is Ontario where the MNR cannot afford to put fuel in their trucks to respond to these incidents. Lesson learned never leave without you knife
 
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