F.A.S.T Times?

Both -- I'm the aberration in Todd's eye's - as while he has seen accuracy go up - he had not see time, that said I am generally a pretty slow shooter, as I hate dropping shots.
 
KevinB said:
Todd and others will tell you - just use it as a test -- its not a drill.
It's the culmination of several drills.

I'm nowhere near coin state yet -- but I will probably get the Pin at the next KSTG Match (New Years Eve...)
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Yes, I do understand this.

That's why I try to limit the amount of times i perform F.A.S.T at the range. It is tempting to do more than three times a session though...

Yesterday was a very high round count for me. 500 rounds when I'm normally around 250 or so. I was working on tracking my front sight during recoil, so i was doing a lot of higher round count drills. I have so much to work on and limited range sessions.....
 
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Time: 2.44 I bet you are very jealous
Pistol: tuppaware (glock)
Holster: inside the underwear
Condition: drew from my underwear (fruit of the loom)
 
Glock 17, 115g Tula
Safariland 5188 Holster
Paklands vest

1st Cold: 11.74 (7.74+4 sec for two dropped shots on the 3x5)
2nd: 6.52 Clean
3rd: 6.22 Clean

The first test was interesting in that after my first shot (which was slightly low) I immediately moved my left hand to reset my pistol, just like I do in dry fire. I've been dry firing daily and I guess I've ingrained that habit. I was rattled by this and rushed to make up the second shot which went slightly high. I'm a little concerned about the training scar, and don't quite know how to fix it. I need to reset my pistol to dry fire.

The second two tests were the last rounds I fired today.
 
Clobbersauras said:
I've been dry firing daily and I guess I've ingrained that habit. I was rattled by this and rushed to make up the second shot which went slightly high. I'm a little concerned about the training scar, and don't quite know how to fix it. I need to reset my pistol to dry fire.
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Do you have other pistols? I dry fire with my double action 226, and I don't think it would affect negatively on my performance with my G17. If you want to stick with a Glock for grip and sights, you could look into an airsoft copy?
 
beltfed said:
Do you have other pistols? I dry fire with my double action 226, and I don't think it would affect negatively on my performance with my G17. If you want to stick with a Glock for grip and sights, you could look into an airsoft copy?
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I thought of that, but I'm invested in the Glock and don't intend to stop using it. Perhaps a SIRT pistol would help? Or maybe I just need to shoot more and cut back on the dry fire, which is problematic with my hectic schedule right now.
 
Clobbersauras said:
I thought of that, but I'm invested in the Glock and don't intend to stop using it. Perhaps a SIRT pistol would help? Or maybe I just need to shoot more and cut back on the dry fire, which is problematic with my hectic schedule right now.
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I have heard mixed reviews about the SIRT pistol, but havent tried it myself. I try to practice with my M&P pro with my Laserlyte target and cartridge at least a few times a week and I can see the possibility of training scars arising (at least a few different issues). While I love my M&P, when I get the extra cash I plan on trying out a Sig (double/single action specifically).

While the Laserlyte has its possible downsides, I definitely notice some improvement from its use (coming from a ~1 year pistol shooter).
 
I've been thinking about this and I believe It's probably more an issue of "get your ####ing head in the game", than a training scar.

I'm going to continue with my dry fire routine and see what happens. I have two courses coming up in the next three months so I'll have lots of added stresses to my shooting to see if this is a real training scar or just a one time occurrence.
 
I just use the flick method.

Which, as noted earlier by Misanthropist, is just grabbing your garment and tossing it out of the way.

I usually use a hoodie or a vest and both garments move much differently, so the flick method is reliable for both. I usually have a multi tool or keys in both pockets and it helps to clear the garments much faster.
 
sirt pistols are awesome for dry fire if your gun doesnt do a double action first shot. personally for training on my own I would turn off the lasers though, easy to get in the habit of ignoring the sights and looking at the laser. totally worth the money
 
Sinasta said:
What are some of you guys advocating for sweeping away a open front concealment garment?
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Nobody I know of in IDPA just grabs the gun. Go on youtube and watch a guy like Vogel draw from a cover garment. He sweeps it quickly rear ward. Car keys in yor vest pocket or similar weight will help get the garment out of the way. Be careful with striker fired pistols getting caught up in your shirt or cover garment when holstering. If your shirt gets caught in the trigger guard your gun can go kaboom real quick.

Take Care

Bob
 
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