Fake Chinese body aemour and medical Supplies being sold to Ukraine

The bigger issue is not the straight up China mart plates .
It's the lieing canadian company's rebranding Chinese armour as canadian.
Also a few doing it with so called uk made aemour.
A gear store in Vancouver in 2020 got caught selling fake CAT 7 TQ. After winning a bid to supply legit NAR cat 7

I agree, I know Ukrainian company that has its plates manufactured in China, but they up to NIJ levels, periodically tested etc. It's not like everything Chinese is crap. It's more like there is a ####load of chinese crap around and some business are making $ in this case on people lives.
 
Will you guys ever offer helmets again (a reputable brand or your own)?

We were getting our helmets from Ukraine.
We have looked as some other brands but they waither wonr export or they won't allow any sale no none Govement.
As for us making it. Not enough of a market this point ans we are staying focused on the plates
 
You're typing like my ex landscaper so I'm going to give you a pass because you were probably typing on the sauce, but the guy didnt say anything to warrant this cringey disgruntled vet response. He was just saying these plates in question seem to be sold by a site sponsor. Furthermore if you feel like the actions of these people is criminal (knowingly selling faulty safety equipment is criminal) you should NAME THEM so we can avoid them cheers.

Yes you are right. I was just supper pissed of ans packing for TACCOM.
Apologies too all.
 
I agree, I know Ukrainian company that has its plates manufactured in China, but they up to NIJ levels, periodically tested etc. It's not like everything Chinese is crap. It's more like there is a ####load of chinese crap around and some business are making $ in this case on people lives.

Couldn't have said it better. The Chinese are definitely capable of making good body armour at a very competitive price. In fact the problem is the Chinese can make anything to your price point. So if someone is paying $9.99 for wish body armour, I don't know what else you can expect.
 
Couldn't have said it better. The Chinese are definitely capable of making good body armour at a very competitive price. In fact the problem is the Chinese can make anything to your price point. So if someone is paying $9.99 for wish body armour, I don't know what else you can expect.

Sorry I just don't agree.
Good plates fail on a regular bases.
He's coming had to do a massive recall in thr last while do to failure.. it happens
It's jist simply not worth the risk by buying 100 Chinese plates.
These is a reason that NIJ deviated all Chinese imported rebranded plates in 2020.
The failure rail was so high and there is no recourse with the manufacturer.
 
The bigger issue is not the straight up China mart plates .
It's the lieing canadian company's rebranding Chinese armour as canadian.
Also a few doing it with so called uk made aemour.
A gear store in Vancouver in 2020 got caught selling fake CAT 7 TQ. After winning a bid to supply legit NAR cat 7
What if anything happened to the store in Van that got caught selling rebranded plates?
 
You're typing like my ex landscaper so I'm going to give you a pass because you were probably typing on the sauce, but the guy didnt say anything to warrant this cringey disgruntled vet response. He was just saying these plates in question seem to be sold by a site sponsor. Furthermore if you feel like the actions of these people is criminal (knowingly selling faulty safety equipment is criminal) you should NAME THEM so we can avoid them cheers.

Dude's always had crappy spelling, but you and the other two guys clearly live in a safe space if you think his response was "disgruntled".

Yes you are right. I was just supper pissed of ans packing for TACCOM.
Apologies too all.

You have nothing to apologize, your response was not out of line. Some people need to get thicker skin. I swear as the years go on people get more and more sensitive.
 
Dude's always had crappy spelling, but you and the other two guys clearly live in a safe space if you think his response was "disgruntled".



You have nothing to apologize, your response was not out of line. Some people need to get thicker skin. I swear as the years go on people get more and more sensitive.

Lol good points.
After 20+years on CGN it seams I have few Ducks to give now days.
Probably because I'm stupid busy.
 
The low priced Chinese plates are more of a novelty. I have bought some in the past and used them as targets. They actually stopped everything they were supposed to but there is always the chance of shoddy quality or them being fake.
That said I would never put my life in the hands of Chinese plates.
 
And this is why I know my post hold little to no value on thus issue as people like you will think it's about bashing the competition.
But it's not .
I'm guessing you have never served so you may not understand.
It,s not about the money

I think that youÂ’re not appreciating that it isnÂ’t about the money for any user here. Everyone is very strongly encouraged to self censor ANY hint of negative criticism of dealers. I know that some chafe at that. They are supposed to be legit wnteties sellinglwgit merchandise. Personally, I think your post was long overdue and, even people in a civilian capacity need their gear to be legit and functional.
 
I didn't know they were still playing hoax war in Ukraine still?

I thought the Psyop had moved back over to the continuation of the Covid hoax?
 
I didn't know they were still playing hoax war in Ukraine still?

I thought the Psyop had moved back over to the continuation of the Covid hoax?

It's easy to see it isn't a hoax, when there are hours upon hours of combat footage coming out daily from the country.


While I don't support either group both Russia or Ukraine. It's horrible to see fake medical supplies, and plates coming from china and being sold by Canadians to war zones as legit equipment.
 
It's easy to see it isn't a hoax, when there are hours upon hours of combat footage coming out daily from the country.


While I don't support either group both Russia or Ukraine. It's horrible to see fake medical supplies, and plates coming from china and being sold by Canadians to war zones as legit equipment.

Playing devils advocate... just because pawns are dying doesn't mean it isn't a hoax.
 
It's easy to see it isn't a hoax, when there are hours upon hours of combat footage coming out daily from the country.


While I don't support either group both Russia or Ukraine. It's horrible to see fake medical supplies, and plates coming from china and being sold by Canadians to war zones as legit equipment.

Hoax's come in all shapes and sizes.
 
Couldn't have said it better. The Chinese are definitely capable of making good body armour at a very competitive price. In fact the problem is the Chinese can make anything to your price point. So if someone is paying $9.99 for wish body armour, I don't know what else you can expect.

People don't seem to get this. The Chinese are capable of excellent manufacturing, but they have perfected manufacturing to a price point. You get what you pay for. As a machinist for the last 18 years, I've seen quality parts come from China, and I've seen hot garbage come from China. In all cases, the parts were made to reflect the prices paid for them. There were no surprises.

Reputable companies exist in China that will provide material test reports (MTRs) for metals used, traceability, etc etc. They're just expensive, and not necessarily in-line with what many people expect to pay for "Made In China" parts.
 
May I suggest that if we can't name the alleged party, may be we can start naming the ones that are not conducting this type of unethical practice?

Cause right now this leaves ppl second guessing so it's almost like a blanket allegation against all other businesses out there. Let's weed out the unethical ones by naming the reputable and honest ones.
 
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