Federal Fusion Ammo.

[Why not?]

I have a few boxes of 225 gr Remington PREMIER® CORE-LOKT®ULTRA BONDED® BULLETS in .338 diameter. Use them for fireforming 375 H&H to 340 Wby

Made for the 338 Winchester, they are very accurate! In the 340, it is no trick at all to get them beyond 3000 fps.

Three guesses why they are no longer produced by Remington?

Ted

 

[ironsighter]

SB..........I doubt you will have any problems with your load in your 338. It should be an excellent killer and should perform the way one might expect a 338 to perform. Is that velocity chronographed? I personally think that if one can honestly achieve 2850+ fps with a 225 Part or AB, the 338 Win mag may actually be a decent killer..........it may be just as good or even possibly better if one could get 3000 fps from a 210 Part. I do not believe that it is a cartridge that would benefit from the use of a homogenous copper bullet though. I suspect one may get a lack of bullet upset and find yourself at the other end of the bullet failure spectrum.

Grand Slams or Woodleigh Weldcores might also be a good choice.

 

[Superbrad]

SB..........I doubt you will have any problems with your load in your 338. It should be an excellent killer and should perform the way one might expect a 338 to perform. Is that velocity chronographed? I personally think that if one can honestly achieve 2850+ fps with a 225 Part or AB, the 338 Win mag may actually be a decent killer..........it may be just as good or even possibly better if one could get 3000 fps from a 210 Part. I do not believe that it is a cartridge that would benefit from the use of a homogenous copper bullet though. I suspect one may get a lack of bullet upset and find yourself at the other end of the bullet failure spectrum.

Cool, thanks Douglas.... The load is indeed Chronied, however, in the interest of transparency the chronograph I was using wasn't mine and I have doubts as to it's accuracy when I compare my load to Nosler data..... I was getting readings between 2800 and 2860 now that I look at my log book.... So, even if the bottom end of the readings is more accurate I will take it at 2800....

 

[c-fbmi]

Interesting and informative discussion. I ask these questions because I don't think I have fired a factory loaded cartridge at game in 40 years or so. When I see debacles like this it makes me wonder what the hell is going on in the factory load market today.
It also makes me glad that I handload and I am not at the mercy of the ammo manufacturers and their inflated velocity figures, trying to make a cartridge into something it's obviously not. I know with absolute certainty and experience what will happen when I unleash a 225 or 250 AB or Part at a game animal from my 340..........it leaves no questions unanswered!!! But then again neither do my various 300s with 200 gn ABs or Parts or A-frames...........

 

[pinkmoon]

I am a big fan of barnes TTSX and Nosler partitions for all big game. I reload my own ammo and when it comes to lobbing it in the direction of a living breathing creature I like to know that the projectile I have chosen will give the best odds . If you read through BCsteves sticky on projectiles in the reloading forum it is difficult to bet against the barnes bullets. I have used a lot of nosler partitions as well but like the fact that barnes are a bit cheaper around here and there is zero lead touching my meat.

I spend a lot of time on the range , carefully hand load my rounds and choose calibers that are suited for the game I am after. That way when things go wrong there is less things to question on my end of things.

 

[MD]

Not to hijack this thread further, but seeing as it has strayed already, here goes: Regarding shoulder shots vs lung shots, I have shot numerous black bears with heart lung shots with my 300 Winchester Magnum and had to pursue more than one into thick bush for retrieval.

Well this June I was in a situation where I was sneaking along a semi-closed in forest service road, and suddenly at 40 yards away spotted a bear feeding by the side of the road at around the same time it saw me. It was broadside at first, but turned kind of 3/4 facing me and I could tell this was the split second before he bolted so I swung the rifle up and when the crosshairs were on the front shoulder I shot. I use 180 grains Nosler Partitons and wanted to "anchor" him in place as has been mentioned above in other posts. It didn't work. He bolted downhill. There was plenty of blood but I waited half an hour than went after him and he had gone straight down and then diagonally down across the mountainside though the devil's club and underbrush. I found a substantial puddle of blood at one point as if he had stopped for a while, but then the blood trail continued downhill until finally I lost it.

Swept back and forth and back looking for more sign but never found any.

So much "anchoring" shoulder shots. It still makes me sick thinking of it.

 

[blasted_saber]

Interesting and informative discussion. I ask these questions because I don't think I have fired a factory loaded cartridge at game in 40 years or so. When I see debacles like this it makes me wonder what the hell is going on in the factory load market today.
It also makes me glad that I handload and I am not at the mercy of the ammo manufacturers and their inflated velocity figures, trying to make a cartridge into something it's obviously not. I know with absolute certainty and experience what will happen when I unleash a 225 or 250 AB or Part at a game animal from my 340..........it leaves no questions unanswered!!! But then again neither do my various 300s with 200 gn ABs or Parts or A-frames...........

Fusion is directly marketed as a deer bullet. Using it on an elk and complaining about poor results is the shooters own fault. I have nothing but good things to say about Fusion when used where the manufacturer says it should be used (deer). It is my go to deer bullet for a couple calibres. When my wife is done with her current stock of ammunition for deer I will be switching here gun over to Fusions as well.

https://www.federalpremium.com/ammunition/rifle/family/fusion/fusion-rifle/f270fs1

Fusion® was the first rifle ammunition specifically built for deer hunting—and it’s still the best, offering the largest expansion and highest weight retention in head-to-head comparisons againt the competition. With a molecularly fused jacket and a pressure-formed core, Fusion transfers maximum energy on target. It’s like hitting a deer with a freight train full of science.