- Location
- Fraser Valley BC
Charter Right to poach Eagles?
First nations man claims charter right to trade eagle parts
- Thread starter effinggoof
- Start date
Moparlover
CGN frequent flyer
keepers of the land.
Well....
I am expecting some hypocrisy to storm in here soon as people start start calling out the natives for claiming a right to hunt/sell/eat, when people here feel it is their right as well.... regardless of what the science or reports say, to hunt for sport or food...
I am expecting some hypocrisy to storm in here soon as people start start calling out the natives for claiming a right to hunt/sell/eat, when people here feel it is their right as well.... regardless of what the science or reports say, to hunt for sport or food...
Well one native gent teaches all the kids up Grouse mountain that the Eagle is sacred, they only collect the feathers that have been shed by the birds. All his forefathers would look down on him for harming the great birds.
I'm not sure this guy had those same teachings??
I'm not sure this guy had those same teachings??
Everyone wants equal rights. So do I, everyone should start acting the same or I'm going to start screaming racist mistreatment towards me for not being able to do what my equally treated brothers can.
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
I think Mr Joseph missed that day of traditional knowledge class.
Indeed. My father keeps watch on where they nest. Go to that area and harvest the shed feathers.
Less work to shoot them I guess. Gives me a sick feeling in my stomach.
ginseng503
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- N. Ontario
As far as I know it works like this. There is an agreement, either written down or by handshake, that conservation officers will endeavor to collect and preserve, eagle feathers and parts. Then there is a mechanism whereby these items are distributed to the appropriate First Nations representatives. These high ranking elders can then present the feathers as honours to deserving people at ceremonies and celebrations. 99.99% of the people would not receive these items in any other way.
For example: I was present at a ceremony where a fan was presented to a woman for her continuing efforts and participation in cultural activities. She danced at the Pow Wows for over 50 years. She judged dancing during this time too. She taught native dancing to hundreds, if not thousands, of young women. She is a role model to all of her children, grandchildren, relatives, and strangers alike. She had wanted an eagle feather fan all her life, but did not have one until that presentation.
The feathers came with a letter of authenticity from the Federal Parks. The rangers know where the eagles nest, and collect the fall down feathers, road kills, and other mortalities.
My daughter wants an eagle feather fan too. There is an eagle nesting up the road. He will be left alone by us. You have to believe that most people are doing the right thing, I do anyway.
For example: I was present at a ceremony where a fan was presented to a woman for her continuing efforts and participation in cultural activities. She danced at the Pow Wows for over 50 years. She judged dancing during this time too. She taught native dancing to hundreds, if not thousands, of young women. She is a role model to all of her children, grandchildren, relatives, and strangers alike. She had wanted an eagle feather fan all her life, but did not have one until that presentation.
The feathers came with a letter of authenticity from the Federal Parks. The rangers know where the eagles nest, and collect the fall down feathers, road kills, and other mortalities.
My daughter wants an eagle feather fan too. There is an eagle nesting up the road. He will be left alone by us. You have to believe that most people are doing the right thing, I do anyway.
bearkilr
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- Nowhere, ......just past the middle
I don't believe this case has much to do about traditional/ceremonial use for the feathers, it's all about $$$$$$$$$.
I wonder what happened stateside. I would think US authorities to be very harsh in handing down sentences on illegal activities involving their national bird. The Lacey Act would apply here as well.
I wonder what happened stateside. I would think US authorities to be very harsh in handing down sentences on illegal activities involving their national bird. The Lacey Act would apply here as well.
Sorry, protected species...find another bird. Simple as that.
I'm sympathetic to native culture but things aren't what they used to be. Just like the native communities adapted to the times, they aren't out there hunting in loin cloths etc. so to should their culture adapt a little bit to the times.
If eagles are protected/endangered then a common ground must be found, apparently they have one with the feather exchange program. Prosecute this guy to the max.
BTW, if I believed in certain native religious/culture beliefs does that give me a right to kill any protected species?
I'm sympathetic to native culture but things aren't what they used to be. Just like the native communities adapted to the times, they aren't out there hunting in loin cloths etc. so to should their culture adapt a little bit to the times.
If eagles are protected/endangered then a common ground must be found, apparently they have one with the feather exchange program. Prosecute this guy to the max.
BTW, if I believed in certain native religious/culture beliefs does that give me a right to kill any protected species?
- Location
- Vancouver Island BC
I thought the eagle was supposed to be a held in high regard, greed and ignornace really is color blind.
