Flash hider help and opinions

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  • Surefire SF3P

    Votes: 4 26.7%

  • Surefire Warcomp

    Votes: 7 46.7%

  • B. E. Meyers 249F

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • Silencerco Trifecta

    Votes: 1 6.7%
  • Total voters
    15
FoxAlpha

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Hey guys, despite what I told the wife I've got a new rifle coming to me and I'm hung up on what kind of flash hider it will sport.
I've settled on a flash hider or MAYBE a combo device, but definitely not a comp or a brake.
It will be residing on a 14.5" barrel with a middy gas system.
Would prefer something that I could potentially pin and weld to bring it down south with me if you have any other suggestions.
As a note, the surefires ability to host the Warden is entirely irrelevant to this as the device mounted on the SF3P or Warcomp seems entirely counter productive.
I know all 4 options aren't exactly readily available but the rifle is coming with an AAC flash hider already so I can afford to wait to find the best option.

I'm mainly looking for first hand experiences as I've already scoured the inter webs for reviews and information on the four but unfortunately there really isn't too much.

So far my options are these:

Surefire SF3P
Pros: top notch quality, scored great in the FH shoot out, simple no BS design
Cons: rings like most pronged flash hiders

Surefire Warcomp
Pros: top notch quality, scored well (less than the SFP3 and 249F) on the FH shoot out, ports allow compensation when shooting right handed.
Cons: rings like most, not very adaptable when shooting off hand/urban prone or other relatable situations

B.E. Meyers 249 F
Pros: best flash hiding capability out of all listed, 4 prong "cool factor"
Cons: rings like a sum b!tch, its a unicorn

Silencerco Trifecta
Pros: eliminates typical ringing effect, most affordable on this list
Cons: mis matched prongs looks somewhat goofy

Any other options are welcome, but I like to try different things so I don't want ones I already have, namely the AAC blackout, lantac dragon, SF MB556 & precision armament afab.

Again, opinions are welcome but I'd really like to see what those who've had first hand experience with these have to say.
 
iloveak47 said:
What is this fh shoot out you are talking about i would like to educate myself
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Truth about guns did a 2 part write up comparing light output of many different flash hiders. It's actually a very informative review and gets somewhat scientific.

There's also links to the muzzle brake shoot out as well.

Part One

Part Two
 
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There is absolutely no reason to swap out your 3 pronged AAC black out for another 3-4 pronged flash suppressor. They all do the same thing and of the same efficiency. The SEI vortex probably does better than all of the them and cheaper, for a carbine.

As a matter of fact, you can even use the AAC black out tool to install surefire! The prongs and the openings are 99% the same dimension, the Sf is just a tiny bit longer!

Unless this is for a light machine gun that fire bursts, there is no reason to get a bigger and longer ones like the B.E Meyer
 
FoxAlpha said:
Can you give me a little more on this? That's been my main dilemma, between the two surefires but I can't help but wish they only had the ports done on the top instead of the one side as well.
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The Warcomp can be timed for left handed or right handed shooters, or anyway you like to. The ports are drilled vertically to the bore axis.
 
I'm not really seeing the point here. You already have the AAC, the others bring absolutely nothing to the table but increased cost and gaudiness.

I have both a Smith Vortex and Phantom 5C1. They're both great at flash reduction. The Phantom is my top choice due to cost vs performance ratio. $35. It's also of a more conventional design and it's long enough to pin and weld on a 14.5".
 
Leg said:
I'm not really seeing the point here. You already have the AAC, the others bring absolutely nothing to the table but increased cost and gaudiness.

I have both a Smith Vortex and Phantom 5C1. They're both great at flash reduction. The Phantom is my top choice due to cost vs performance ratio. $35. It's also of a more conventional design and it's long enough to pin and weld on a 14.5".
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Chalk this one up to "because I want to". Every one of my rifles is different (except for lower receiver parts), and id like to keep with that standard. My theory is "why have all your rifles the same, then I might as well have just one".
 
Fair enough. I have no experience with those listed.

I still recommend you try out a Phantom 5C1 or 2. Long enough for pin and weld without being overly long like some of the new contenders. Failing that try the original Smith Vortex but you may notice ringing.
 
Warcomp is the only one that offers some extra capabilities with trade offs.

As a comp, it is a bit mediocre. Obviously there are way better comps out there for the money. i haven't fired a Warcomp at night so I can't tell you about the flash suppression part. Judging by the reports you have attached, it is similar to the A2. So you probably don't want to attach this to anything shorter than 14.5.
 
Were would you buy a B. E. Meyers 249F from in Canada?

I'd love to know how much louder a Warcomp is over an SF3P.
 
mebiuspower said:
B.E. Meyers FH is MUCH better than the outdated Vortex...
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I'm sorry but that's a load of bull. The Meyers does appear to have a slight edge in flash suppression but the diference is marginal.

Vortex outdated? Certainly one of the oldest devices out there but it still does what it's supposed to and does it better than a lot of the newer ones. Hell, the A2 outperforms a lot of these so called high end, high dollar flash suppressors. The Vortex obviously does it's job good enough that it was chosen by CANSOF for their C8s.

The Vortex is $58US vs $85 for the Meyers. Not a huge diference at a glance but the Meyers costs 45% more than the Smith. Now cost won't matter to some but it is a factor for many of us. Is the Meyers better? The above video supports that but barely. People will have to decide if the slight edge in performance is worth it to them. Some, like the OP, will want it simply because it's newer, or more tacticool than other options.
 
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