Foxes and cats
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"I have yet to see a cat; raid a chicken coop,"
I have seen the results of a cat, a childs pet, go in to the chicken coop every night. That darn cat would kill but not eat a chicken every night. We thought is was a raccoon or something doing the deed so I slept outside with a 12 Ga ready to make life tough for the raccoon. We also blocked all access to the chicken coop except for a possible route through a Conibear trap. Early one morning we found #1 child's pet in the trap. Surprisingly, that was the end of the dead chickens.
I have seen the results of a cat, a childs pet, go in to the chicken coop every night. That darn cat would kill but not eat a chicken every night. We thought is was a raccoon or something doing the deed so I slept outside with a 12 Ga ready to make life tough for the raccoon. We also blocked all access to the chicken coop except for a possible route through a Conibear trap. Early one morning we found #1 child's pet in the trap. Surprisingly, that was the end of the dead chickens.
MapleSugar
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So you found proof that the cat was the one killing the chickens, or you just assumed it was the culprit because you caught it in the trap?
I used to work at a commercial egg farm. There were thousands of chickens and probably a dozen barn cats running around keeping the rodents away from the grain. I never saw one cat go after a chicken, not even once.
However, our neighbour's dog hopped the fence around their yard several times, traveled about 1/2 a kilometer and snuck in to kill several chickens before it was caught.
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People loves cats a little TOO much IMO...you'd think they are gods personal gift to the world the way people blow up when a thread is started about shooting STRAYS and FERALS (not pets!).
So you found proof that the cat was the one killing the chickens, or you just assumed it was the culprit because you caught it in the trap?
I used to work at a commercial egg farm. There were thousands of chickens and probably a dozen barn cats running around keeping the rodents away from the grain. I never saw one cat go after a chicken, not even once.
However, our neighbour's dog hopped the fence around their yard several times, traveled about 1/2 a kilometer and snuck in to kill several chickens before it was caught.
Haa haaa haaa I love these cat lover/hater threads...
I read that the chickens also stopped being killed after the cat was trapped definitely not rocket science to connect the dots...
You're an idiot and a troll.
Not really, but thanks for your feedback.
I don't know of anything more destructive than a dog wandering loose.
Firstly, this conversation was about cats, nobody said anything about dogs. While some dogs may pose a problem, most dog owners are aware of a dogs destructive potential and keep them restrained accordingly. Meanwhile ignorant cat owners let little fluffy out of the house thinking it's cute to let it run around, while not knowing the destruction that their little ball of fluff is causing.
I have yet to see a cat; raid a chicken coop, run a deer or calf, maul a child, or attack another pet. Guess what I've witnessed dogs doing?
The chicken issues has been adressed by others, and I have family that have raised small numbers of chickens that have had problems with cats also.
In my experience while dogs can harm children, cats cause many injuries to children also, likely far more than dogs. Having worked off and on for the last 15+ years in various EDs I have seen it firsthand. While the sheer damage done by a single dog mauling may be horrific, it is also extremely rare.
Obviously you have been influenced by the moron ornithologists in the States who blame cats for songbird destruction. Which has proven to be a bunch of BS
Actually, I have a fair amount of land, and while I have NEVER had a dog running loose on it, I have had witnessed cats on it, several of which I have seen raiding grouse nests, killing young rabbits and harassing turkey poults. So while you may think that it is a load of BS, I have seen evidence to convince me otherwise.
canadian hunter312
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are you on glue or something? a well fed cat will gladly go outside and kill any small animal just for ####s and giggles and they are likely the WORST feral species for local wildlife.
i invite you to read an article in ontario out of doors fall 2010 titled "the trouble with cats". it is this months issue so im sure the article will be available online in a couple weeks or so.
i have personally witnessed cats hunting and killing for fun a few times while i have been sitting in a deer stand. i've also seen many cats carrying around dead critters and have heard tons of stories of pet cats bringing home various dead critters. these idiot cat owners think its funny and no big deal that fluffy kills a few birds and rabbits weekly. but, outdoor cats are definitely bad news for wildlife.
SSS truly is a great thing when it comes to little kitty cats out in the bush.
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KDX: (dodging all the pet talk) Maybe I am getting soft but I am of the mind that you should leave the little fellow alone, unless he becomes a pest or hurts your pets. Those pics you posted were pretty nice and he doesn't seem to be doing anything beyond normal fox stuff - as far as I know foxes don't eat large animals (i.e. cats) unless they are dead or are extremely young (i.e. kittens). What is shooting the fox with a Pball gun supposed to do (CO suggestion)? Is it supposed to scare him off or kill him?
If you have to dispatch him, I recommend (if your neighbors are good with it) either trapping him or shooting him with a 22LR - use the CCI Velocitor load at close up (30m or less) it should drop him like a sack of potatos. I am not a big fan of 22LR on larger then bunny sized animals as I have personally seen it not kill cleanly but it looks like you should have no problem getting close. I don't think it is wise to use the CB/Subsonic rounds or Airgun. The noise shouldn't be an issue and you do want it to die cleanly, especially if your neighbors are watching...
If you have to dispatch him, I recommend (if your neighbors are good with it) either trapping him or shooting him with a 22LR - use the CCI Velocitor load at close up (30m or less) it should drop him like a sack of potatos. I am not a big fan of 22LR on larger then bunny sized animals as I have personally seen it not kill cleanly but it looks like you should have no problem getting close. I don't think it is wise to use the CB/Subsonic rounds or Airgun. The noise shouldn't be an issue and you do want it to die cleanly, especially if your neighbors are watching...
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Haa haaa haaa I love these cat lover/hater threads...
I read that the chickens also stopped being killed after the cat was trapped definitely not rocket science to connect the dots...
Yeah, he barricaded the barn so that there was only one entry and caught the cat after several nights of trying. Yes, it must have been the cat.
Nevermind that anyone who has raised chickens know that weasels are usually the only animal to raid a coop and kill chickens without eating them.
I wouldn't doubt the real culprit had already moved on when access became restricted and the cat was caught by accident.
Oh but then again, it could have been one of those evil, feral cats.
MapleSugar
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You're an idiot and a troll.
Not really, but thanks for your feedback.
I don't know of anything more destructive than a dog wandering loose.
Firstly, this conversation was about cats, nobody said anything about dogs. While some dogs may pose a problem, most dog owners are aware of a dogs destructive potential and keep them restrained accordingly. Meanwhile ignorant cat owners let little fluffy out of the house thinking it's cute to let it run around, while not knowing the destruction that their little ball of fluff is causing.
I have yet to see a cat; raid a chicken coop, run a deer or calf, maul a child, or attack another pet. Guess what I've witnessed dogs doing?
The chicken issues has been adressed by others, and I have family that have raised small numbers of chickens that have had problems with cats also.
In my experience while dogs can harm children, cats cause many injuries to children also, likely far more than dogs. Having worked off and on for the last 15+ years in various EDs I have seen it firsthand. While the sheer damage done by a single dog mauling may be horrific, it is also extremely rare.
Obviously you have been influenced by the moron ornithologists in the States who blame cats for songbird destruction. Which has proven to be a bunch of BS
Actually, I have a fair amount of land, and while I have NEVER had a dog running loose on it, I have had witnessed cats on it, several of which I have seen raiding grouse nests, killing young rabbits and harassing turkey poults. So while you may think that it is a load of BS, I have seen evidence to convince me otherwise.
You ARE an idiot and a troll. You barge into a thread about cats proclaiming about how much you hate them and love it when they get killed.
Then you regale us with you tale of deductive reasoning that would be sure to make Sherlock Holmes proud.
Then you try to say cats are more dangerous that dogs. What a joke.
I don't know anyone who has been mauled by a cat. But I do know several people who have been attacked by dogs and bear the scars. Funny how I can also recount numerous news reports of vicious dog attacks and yet none about cats.
The Kelowna RCMP issued a warning about 20 years ago that they would shoot anyone's dog found running loose in Glenrosa on sight, because they had such a problem with them running deer. Funny how they never issued a similar warning about those evil feral cats.
MapleSugar
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Funny how the people always proclaiming their hatred of cats, are always the same ones that are all teary eyed and outraged if some loser shoots a dog.
MapleSugar
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are you on glue or something? a well fed cat will gladly go outside and kill any small animal just for s**ts and giggles and they are likely the WORST feral species for local wildlife.
i invite you to read an article in ontario out of doors fall 2010 titled "the trouble with cats". it is this months issue so im sure the article will be available online in a couple weeks or so.
i have personally witnessed cats hunting and killing for fun a few times while i have been sitting in a deer stand. i've also seen many cats carrying around dead critters and have heard tons of stories of pet cats bringing home various dead critters. these idiot cat owners think its funny and no big deal that fluffy kills a few birds and rabbits weekly. but, outdoor cats are definitely bad news for wildlife.
SSS truly is a great thing when it comes to little kitty cats out in the bush.
Once again, you've proven to me your family tree is more like a stick.
Any wild cat I've ever seen is far too hungry to kill anything for s**ts and giggles. I've also never seen them take anything bigger than a rodent or small bird.
Actually, a wolf-dog hybrid is one of the most destructive animals in the wild. They are larger than a wolf and have more strength and endurance. They are also very hard to control. That is why they are illegal to own and are destroyed by the CO's.
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Funny how the people always proclaiming their hatred of cats, are always the same ones that are all teary eyed and outraged if some loser shoots a dog.
I'd just as easy shoot a WILD dog...
MapleSugar
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I don't hate cats or dogs and would only shoot something that was a real threat. That being said, I trust cats a lot more than I do dogs.
I've seen; bears, wolves, coyotes, foxes, bobcats, lynx, etc. in the wild and haven't bothered with any of them.
I can't understand the mentality of people that have to shoot everything they see.
If it isn't for sustenance or self-defense I couldn't be bothered with shooting them.
canadian hunter312
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Once again, you've proven to me your family tree is more like a stick.
Any wild cat I've ever seen is far too hungry to kill anything for s**ts and giggles. I've also never seen them take anything bigger than a rodent or small bird.
Actually, a wolf-dog hybrid is one of the most destructive animals in the wild. They are larger than a wolf and have more strength and endurance. They are also very hard to control. That is why they are illegal to own and are destroyed by the CO's.
you sound like a little idiot child that is trying to make others believe you actually know what you're talking about. actually, it appears like you have the same dimwit mentality as a delightful PETA member
clearly you have not spent enough time in the bush or you never leave the the city if you have only seen cats kill rodents and small birds. they will easily kill squirrels, smaller rabbits, grouse, turkey poults, young waterfowl, birds, snakes, and the list goes on.
true, dogs are more dangerous than cats. but, canines typically dont kill for fun like cats so i'd be more concerned for humans than wildlife. but, feral cats are a huge problem for wildlife and they need to be dealt with. anyone who says otherwise needs to pull their head out of their ass
I don't like cat owners that let their cats out to crap all over the neighborhood especially in my backyard...
I don't like dog owners that while walking their dogs let them crap in my front yard.
If I lived in the country where it was legal to discharge a firearm on my property it wouldn't matter if it was a cat or a dog dumping I would do the three S's shoot/shovel/shut up...
I don't like dog owners that while walking their dogs let them crap in my front yard.
If I lived in the country where it was legal to discharge a firearm on my property it wouldn't matter if it was a cat or a dog dumping I would do the three S's shoot/shovel/shut up...
