I only have one Vudoo, but zero feeding issues with the 10 round plastic magazine, or the 5 round metal magazine.
From Lapua SK to ELEY
- Thread starter Longstud
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I only have one Vudoo, but zero feeding issues with the 10 round plastic magazine, or the 5 round metal magazine.
Mystic Precision
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- Location
- Summerland, BC
No, the issue continues... it is just so much better as newer mags do help... better set ups and more adjustments do help. But coming from a CZ457, having to play around with set up AND mags, it will be obvious that this is not a no brainer set up. If you dont care about the occasional bobble or jiggle, the barreled action can provide a very high level of performance limited by the ammo of course.
If you want to see what function issues look like with Rem 700 rimfires, search on youtube vids by womfat. Great vids and shows the good, bad and ugly during a match. If a shooter has to wiggle, jiggle, play with the top rd or mag, swap mags during operation, clear the action, there is a feeding problem.
One of the more recent vids he explains his case extractor tool and how it lives on the side of his rifle. Prudence.. or experience? You decide.
Also, you can search X-Ring and his recent vid testing the Vitrix (sp?). He shoots with a custom rimfire builder who has his latest rig. You will see in the middle of testing when one of the rifles has a feeding hiccup.... and kind of the "yep" comment from the other shooter.
Feeding and reliability quirks have become so common place, many shooters don't even notice them for what they are. They instinctively know how to wiggle a rd or jiggle the mag and keep going... no problem. If you look at womfats vids, shooters don't even blink when clearing a malfunction and finish the stage with great scores.... no problem.
Whether this matters to you or not, is a personal decision...
YMMV
Jerry
Yes. I also think that many owners cheap out when putting together a system, along with being complete amateurs at rifle assembly. If the goal is cost effective PRS type practice the Rimfire 700 platforms are the way to go, muscle memory and all that.
I guess it must be just luck that myself as well as numerous shooting buddies with vudoos dont suffer from all these problems. Many of the problems are directly related to user error and basic lack of knowledge. Many think theyre gunsmiths and we see that far too often. As far as magazines go, the same original three are still being used without issue from my first Vudoo which was at least four years ago. Owning and actually using something has more credibility. Youtube videos are made for subscribers and to generate cash for the producer. Do you honestly think that top tier shooters would risk precious points or time if the problem was that prevelant. Poor competitors blame their equiptment. If its unreliable fix it or get rid of it to someone who can. It is not actually rocket science but for some apparently out of the realm for the them. After fixing and tweaking all the junk he has Id suspect this would be a walk in the park if actually required.
Max Owner
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
What is the hierarchy for SK ammo?
Meaning what is there top tier and work down from there?
Always thought Center X was Lapua's top but learned it was X-Act and then Center X. Hope to get ahold of their Super Long Range when it shows up here in Canada.
Meaning what is there top tier and work down from there?
Always thought Center X was Lapua's top but learned it was X-Act and then Center X. Hope to get ahold of their Super Long Range when it shows up here in Canada.
Ther is also Midas above center X and X-act.
As recently as 2019 (and perhaps for a year or two later) there were two nominal "speeds" of SK ammo available -- 1073 and 1106 fps. There were two production runs on the same loading machinery, one for each "speed". Each production run would result in all varieties of each "speed" (Rifle Match and Standard Plus are each a variety of SK ammo).
For SK's 1073 fps varieties at the top is SK Rifle Match, followed by Standard Plus, Pistol Match, and Magazine.
In the 1106 fps line, the top graded variety is SK Long Range Match, followed by Biathlon Sport, and Pistol Match Special.
Pricing isn't necessarily a reliable guide for adjudicating ammo grade, with the "pistol" varieties being the obvious example. As a potential "niche" ammo, these may at times be more expensive. Price doesn't impact the accuracy requirements and expectations between rifle and pistol shooters.
SK has since added Semi Auto Rifle and High Velocity Match which may not fall into either "speed" lines. (Flatnose varieties were discontinued by 2021.)
Leuchtkafer
Member
1. R50, also R100 which is higher velocity
2. Special Match
3. Rifle Match/Rifle Match S (higher velocity)
4. Target Rifle
5. Club
I notice Christensen and Springfield both offering bolt-action .22LR rifles with 10/22 magazine compatibility ahead of Rem700 triggers that should theoretically be TriggerTech-replaceable. This might in principle be a sweet spot to explore further.
RWS and Eley each make both "match" ammo and "entry level" match ammo. As with all entry level match ammos, there can be considerable performance variation between lots and within lots.
For RWS, the top tier standard velocity ammo is RWS R50 followed by RWS Special Match. These are likely produced in a production run separate from the production runs producing the entry level varieties. Rabid's identification above of the order as RWS Rifle Match followed by Target Rifle and Club is correct.
Eley's top tier standard velocity match ammo is Tenex, which uses the EPS (flatnose) bullet. It is followed by Eley Match and Team (note that Team was discontinued for a period ending a year or two ago, during which Eley had only Tenex and Match as the standard velocity EPS varieties). Eley's also has standard velocity 40 grain entry level match ammos, including Club and Sport.
In the case of Lapua, it's owner also owns SK and the SK ammo varieties are the "entry level" offerings.
For RWS, the top tier standard velocity ammo is RWS R50 followed by RWS Special Match. These are likely produced in a production run separate from the production runs producing the entry level varieties. Rabid's identification above of the order as RWS Rifle Match followed by Target Rifle and Club is correct.
Eley's top tier standard velocity match ammo is Tenex, which uses the EPS (flatnose) bullet. It is followed by Eley Match and Team (note that Team was discontinued for a period ending a year or two ago, during which Eley had only Tenex and Match as the standard velocity EPS varieties). Eley's also has standard velocity 40 grain entry level match ammos, including Club and Sport.
In the case of Lapua, it's owner also owns SK and the SK ammo varieties are the "entry level" offerings.
- Location
- Nova Scotia
Eley sport is 7.99 a box here and capable of 1/2" groups.
Was out in minus 5 today and seemed like my 1403 likes it better than my 64 S. I was putting them all in the 9 ring with apetures at 100. Not bad for entry level ammo.
Was out in minus 5 today and seemed like my 1403 likes it better than my 64 S. I was putting them all in the 9 ring with apetures at 100. Not bad for entry level ammo.
that makes sense, in my rifle SK RM shoots no better than Club, but must be different for others to have the demand so high
Norma seems to have their line settled down to the three, Tac22 and the higher end Match and Biathlon Match, which is never seen
Max Owner
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
I was interested in both. But the Springfield doesn't have a good reputation for accuracy so far. And I am not convinced that carbon fiber barrels are a good thing yet.
