Frustrated with Gun Club Experience

jethunter said:
Geezuz. Stop whining.

The caretaker gave you the stinkeye - you poor ittle thing. did you cry?
The mean people at the gun club aren't accepting new members - try counselling.

Gosh man(?). The rest of the world ain't responsible for your happiness, thats just what your mommy made you think. If you spent half as long looking for another gun club as you did crying on that first post you might accomplish something. The world doesn't owe you a freaking thing, sonny.
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This attitude stops growth of gun friendly voters and expensive club upgrades. If an attitude or treatment wouldn't be approved in a normal social situation or customer service interaction it is not acceptable at a gun club. My mother would never let me treat anyone like that when I was a kid, would yours? What has changed now?
 
If I have a bad experience customer service wise I take my money elsewhere. Not my responsibility to fix someone else's show. Over time it works; my local outdoors/gunshop reorganized and turfed a crappy employee and now I spend money there.
 
So is the PCDHFC the preferred range in lower mainland? I'd like to take a look at Abbotsford but I'm not sure how long the waitlist is
 
emerson said:
This attitude stops growth of gun friendly voters and expensive club upgrades. If an attitude or treatment wouldn't be approved in a normal social situation or customer service interaction it is not acceptable at a gun club. My mother would never let me treat anyone like that when I was a kid, would yours? What has changed now?
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yep! :agree: What an a$$hole!
 
Well I put my name on the waitlist at Abbotsford. Hopefully I'll get an email next year, in the meantime I'll try to do a drop-in at Poco this weekend...assuming my registration certificates arrive....how long does it usually take to receive them? I got my LTATT and transfer papers on Monday in the mail
 
pats said:
were all here to shoot so why fight about it. we all like doing the SAME THING
so why fight about it.
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Because this is CGN.
 
emerson said:
This attitude stops growth of gun friendly voters and expensive club upgrades. If an attitude or treatment wouldn't be approved in a normal social situation or customer service interaction it is not acceptable at a gun club. My mother would never let me treat anyone like that when I was a kid, would yours? What has changed now?
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Totally agree with this. One of the clubs I'm a member at in BC leaves a lot on the table to this. They have no real kind of formal procedure or processes and if you can't figure out their convoluted expectations and informal procedures you draw the ire of all those around. If you happen across the right group of guys they will happily show you the ropes and it's great,but it's definitely hit or miss. I see a number of new shooters come, get a luke warm reception and then never come back. Doesn't seem to be any desire for change though...

People can cry that people are feeling entitled for expecting someone to try and make them feel welcome, but to a certain running a club is a service industry. Treating people with a cold shoulder till they are considered "one of the guys " is just rude, but for some reason seems to pervade shooting sports more than others.
 
I second semiamhoo. I used two go there every week to shoot .22 rifles.
Great easygoing people and lot of old and young, experienced and green.

Give them a try for sure.
 
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Here is my take: Just because some rude individual gives you big time stink eye and makes U feel uncomfortable, pay no attention. It just ante worth it, dismiss this individual and talk with other members. U just might find that you will be fine with that shooting club.
 
Prospector said:
Man, that would take all the fun out of filling the mag and letting loose on the targets.
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There is a reason for 1 round at a time in the chamber. Serious shooters will after shooting a round, will lay their rifle down with the bolt or the action open, weapon cleared, and look through their spotting scope to see how the last round fired printed. Loading a new round and getting repositioned and locked into your rifle again uses up time. This time will also allow your barrel to cool thereby allowing a serious shooter a better group. Heating up your barrel is never ever a good idea, It ruins the throat of your rifle. Those that want to load more than 1 round at a time and shoot until the magazine is empty can be a real safety hazard when cease fire is called or with many different individuals on the firing line with many different levels of experience in handling firearms. This is because we are all human, and we all occasionally forget when distracted. U can forget how many rounds you have loaded, expended, and have left in your weapon when cease fire is called by the RO. This can be deadly to the shooter and others around him. Case in point. A bolt action Remington 700 bolt action can discharge by itself (Remington Moment) because of a malfunctioning trigger design. I would hate to be down range changing targets and get shot in the back because someone left a round up the spout and the rifle got slightly bumped by someone walking by the shooting mat or table and a Remington Moment happened.
 
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Brutus said:
I find there are three club 'types' in Canada.

1. The middle ground type, that rules you to death,
(by thier own 'extra-plus' rules, not province/feds) But this is all above board, so we all know what one's getting into beforehand, so it's okay.

2. The worst type, that appears to be transparent & above the board, but the 'old guard' have thier own circle of accepted members, and one always feels like the FNG/mushroom/stranger. (kept in the dark forever)
Lack of two-way communcations, is prevalent.

3. The best type, while complying with all provincal/federal laws, provides excellent recreational activity.
They truly welcome new members to the sport, while equally sharing the burden of range duties.
As well, providing timely/patient advice to neophytes at the correct moments.
Great communications on all levels, usually is a very good sign.
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I'm hoping to find #3 on this list, so hopefully that narrows it down to some, who can point me in the right direction here in the Lower Mainland - Vancouver area!

My situation is different than many here, in that I'm a 'Newbie' as well...to shotguns, as I have rifle hunted for 30+ years now, but have acquired a shotgun hoping to try some turkey hunting in my near future. I've bought a pump action shotgun, and have both 18.5' barrel and a 28", so I can use it as a 'dual' use firearm, for safety when in Grizzly country (double 0 and slug), and loads needed for my hopeful turkey hunt in the future. In saying that, I've done a bit of reading on 'clay/trap' and have found that I may very well be interested in that as well! Still not sure if actually becoming a member is needed or arrive as a non-member, and try that first, to see how much 'fun' this truly may be, and whether the cost associated would work out for me.

I've recently retired (well...semi-retired) and realize (as should many gun clubs) that our age group is HUGE, and with all these baby-boomers now retiring, there may be a 'big' up side to raising memberships with the tens of thousands of soon to be retired folks looking for something constructive, yet fun, to do in Canada!

I've read the good/bad on this particular topic here, some with attitude, others with friendly fortitude and I'm hoping to meet others out to enjoy life with many unique interests to balance out a 'fun' life of interests. Like the initial poster of this post, I too would probably shy away from 'any' particular club, if the attitude shown was much less than what was expected, so perhaps that topic should come up when the 'directors' have their meetings, on who or whom should be the one greeting members at the door! I say that in recognition of realizing that sometimes 'first looks' or first attitudes are the start of where your club is needing to be, if you want it to continue on and grow in the future. I also understand how invitation to everyone can be difficult if you get the guy with the top of his shorts well down the crack of his a**, with his well accessorized tactical shotgun looking like it should be in a Rambo movie rather than ready to shoot trap...along with a more than radical attitude of his own, who may very well ruin the day for everyone at the club....thus some need for rules that have to be spelled out.

I'm hoping to run into other friendly responsible gun owners with whom also want to just get out and enjoy the art of shooting... as well as our eye sight will allow, and perhaps even finding a long term friendship that might endure the next few decades.
 
eaglesnester said:
There is a reason for 1 round at a time in the chamber. Serious shooters will after shooting a round, will lay their rifle down with the bolt or the action open, weapon cleared, and look through their spotting scope to see how the last round fired printed. Loading a new round and getting repositioned and locked into your rifle again uses up time. This time will also allow your barrel to cool thereby allowing a serious shooter a better group. Heating up your barrel is never ever a good idea, It ruins the throat of your rifle. Those that want to load more than 1 round at a time and shoot until the magazine is empty can be a real safety hazard when cease fire is called or with many different individuals on the firing line with many different levels of experience in handling firearms. This is because we are all human, and we all occasionally forget when distracted. U can forget how many rounds you have loaded, expended, and have left in your weapon when cease fire is called by the RO. This can be deadly to the shooter and others around him. Case in point. A bolt action Remington 700 bolt action can discharge by itself (Remington Moment) because of a malfunctioning trigger design. I would hate to be down range changing targets and get shot in the back because someone left a round up the spout and the rifle got slightly bumped by someone walking by the shooting mat or table and a Remington Moment happened.
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Would you walk downrange to do a target change when the rifles are on the bench? Or would you wait until the rifles are in the rack?

If a cease fire was called would you NOT confirm your rifle was clear?

Would you put your rifle in a rack without proving it?
 
eaglesnester said:
There is a reason for 1 round at a time in the chamber. Serious shooters will after shooting a round, will lay their rifle down with the bolt or the action open, weapon cleared, and look through their spotting scope to see how the last round fired printed. Loading a new round and getting repositioned and locked into your rifle again uses up time. This time will also allow your barrel to cool thereby allowing a serious shooter a better group. Heating up your barrel is never ever a good idea, It ruins the throat of your rifle. Those that want to load more than 1 round at a time and shoot until the magazine is empty can be a real safety hazard when cease fire is called or with many different individuals on the firing line with many different levels of experience in handling firearms. This is because we are all human, and we all occasionally forget when distracted. U can forget how many rounds you have loaded, expended, and have left in your weapon when cease fire is called by the RO. This can be deadly to the shooter and others around him. Case in point. A bolt action Remington 700 bolt action can discharge by itself (Remington Moment) because of a malfunctioning trigger design. I would hate to be down range changing targets and get shot in the back because someone left a round up the spout and the rifle got slightly bumped by someone walking by the shooting mat or table and a Remington Moment happened.
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Yeah. It's called physics.

Maybe with a hammer and a little pry bar...
 
eaglesnester said:
There is a reason for 1 round at a time in the chamber. Serious shooters will after shooting a round, will lay their rifle down with the bolt or the action open, weapon cleared, and look through their spotting scope to see how the last round fired printed. Loading a new round and getting repositioned and locked into your rifle again uses up time. This time will also allow your barrel to cool thereby allowing a serious shooter a better group. Heating up your barrel is never ever a good idea, It ruins the throat of your rifle. Those that want to load more than 1 round at a time and shoot until the magazine is empty can be a real safety hazard when cease fire is called or with many different individuals on the firing line with many different levels of experience in handling firearms. This is because we are all human, and we all occasionally forget when distracted. U can forget how many rounds you have loaded, expended, and have left in your weapon when cease fire is called by the RO. This can be deadly to the shooter and others around him. Case in point. A bolt action Remington 700 bolt action can discharge by itself (Remington Moment) because of a malfunctioning trigger design. I would hate to be down range changing targets and get shot in the back because someone left a round up the spout and the rifle got slightly bumped by someone walking by the shooting mat or table and a Remington Moment happened.
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Fudds, meet your god.
 
whiteoutjeeper said:
Fudds, meet your god.
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Came across someone ''enforcing', the unwritten/invented 1 round rule by grabbing my rifle (K98) out of my hand because I was shooting the gong in standing position with 4 rnds in the magazine. Voices were raised quite a bit after that. The guy was actually 6'2 and 300lbs (tall fat guy). Bullying at ranges sucks.

The situation made me feel like crap all day.
 
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