glock failure
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You've narrowed it down(as has Misanthropist) to a specific serial series of the gen3 Glocks. That's a far different story than what was posted by another member.
The difference between Glocks and Religion. Glock is a proven entity that has saved lives.
TDC
Mine is an SES### serial number gen 3 glock 17. I only have around 300 to 350 rounds through it but it ejects strong and to 4 o'clock. I know issues may not show up until later but I run weak 115 gr WWB ammo through it and it has been flawless.
I hear ppl complain bout the ejection but I bet a lt of late gen 3 guns are problem free.
Its the fact that you never say anything is even just "good" and bash anything else that is not a Glock...
You think its such a good gun that people should over look issues like a #### grip size and angle making it a poor fit for some and "learn to love it" ...why in the world should they do that? What advantages are they gaining? ####ty stock sights? Check! A mushy trigger? Check! Small controls? Check! A unsafe take down design that has resulted in peoples deaths? Check! (you liked to point out how many lives it has saved...)
You think its such a good gun that people should over look issues like a #### grip size and angle making it a poor fit for some and "learn to love it" ...why in the world should they do that? What advantages are they gaining? ####ty stock sights? Check! A mushy trigger? Check! Small controls? Check! A unsafe take down design that has resulted in peoples deaths? Check! (you liked to point out how many lives it has saved...)
Those points are all inaccurate/invalid, and the last one is the most ridiculous of all.
Anyone who is handling a gun should know what an empty chamber means and looks like, not to mention that whole safe direction bit... Glock cannot fix stupid.
As has been posted, your ignorance and lack of skill set is shining through. Grip size and angle are gimmicks used by half wits who have a tough time determining the safe end from the dangerous end. Do I need to post the video of a NINE YEAR OLD GIRL who runs a G19 with factory ammo without issue? Unless your hands are smaller than hers, you have no excuse.
The stock sights are a decent design, just poorly executed, that I fully agree with. Useable sure, but far from ideal. Are the stock sights on a 1911 or a CZ fantastic? I would say they're horrible as well. Oddly enough, sights on quality guns can be changed.
Mushy trigger? Its called SLACK or TAKE UP. Learn to shoot, as in seek PROFESSIONAL training and you too can make hits on demand. Glock triggers don't cover up sh*t form like a 1911 or any other gimmick trigger being offered. Keep in mind, Glock was and is designed as a service gun. The sole intent and design is based around shooting people. There I said it. Don't get all butt hurt now. Firearms are killing tools and some excel at it.
Small controls? The slide release/lock isn't meant to be used for reloads, much like that of most pistols. If you look carefully you'll notice the serrations on more than a few slide release/lock are angled the wrong way to be used to close the slide. They're designed to improve the purchase when MANUALLY LOCKING THE SLIDE OPEN. Again, seek some PROFESSIONAL training and you too might understand this concept. The Mag release was also designed to be difficult to access, so as to prevent inadvertent mag release when drawing or otherwise running the gun. Reloading is only an issue if you've depleted the current magazine without success. Drawing any gun and dumping the magazine would equate to the same result with less chance of success.
As for unsafe take down. I see it as the IQ test for firearms ownership. If you can't clear a firearm properly then you shouldn't be handling them, period. It sounds like your fear of firearms has crippled your ability to learn and think.
As for good points about Glocks, I will list a few.
Low bore axis, in fact, lower than nearly all other options on the market.
35 total parts including the magazine. Fewest of any pistol available.
Weighs less loaded with 17 rounds than some guns do empty.
Three integral passive safeties that engage and disengage without cognitive action or thought.
Standard, compact, and sub compact can share the same magazines(large to small not the other way around
)Parts are interchangeable across all sizes of similar calibers.
Integral rail for lights
Tenifer finish is extremely hard
Polymer frame resists heat/cold transfer and is impervious to salt water and solvents.
Square slide makes for excellent sighting plane with and without sights.
Square slide also aids in single handed manipulations(seek professional training if this boggles your mind)
Do I need to say more? The gun is simple, robust and intuitive. There isn't anything else out there that offers this level of performance.
TDC
ETA: Let me answer one more of your statements jeffcarr88. I think SIG makes(or rather made) a great gun, as does HK in the USP series. M&P's are clearly a copy of the Glock and seem to have sorted out the majority of their teething issues. That all being said, none of the above have all the benefits and pedigree of a Glock. The HK and SIG cost more as well. It still comes down to what you intend to use it for as well.
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Professional training is not need, thanks tho!!! I shoot my handguns just fine!!! I will be sure to pass on to others that do not shoot Glocks that the ONLY reasons they are not shooting one is because they need "professional" paper punchers to train them so they can switch to shooting the over rated black 2x4
JEFF OUT!!!
JEFF OUT!!!
In resume from all posts, glock are perfection : simple - robuste - intuitive better than any other gun on the market...
But you must take a professional training in order to touch the target or not having jams or other malfunction...
Otherwise anything happens is the user's fault
Wow i'm impressed
But you must take a professional training in order to touch the target or not having jams or other malfunction...
Otherwise anything happens is the user's fault
Wow i'm impressed
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Professional training is not need, thanks tho!!! I shoot my handguns just fine!!! I will be sure to pass on to others that do not shoot Glocks that the ONLY reasons they are not shooting one is because they need "professional" paper punchers to train them so they can switch to shooting the over rated black 2x4
JEFF OUT!!!
I stand corrected. You simply haven't the capacity to understand the topic being discussed. Like most, you don't shoot well, you simply have the capacity to function the firearm. If you feel you would gain nothing by seeking more training then you've already failed. My point which you clearly missed, was that the haters haven't a leg to stand on if they're informed and educated. There are a few threads on this forum alone of former haters who have switched to a Glock. Only to admit they disliked them for no valid reason other than it was popular opinion. Of those who had tried a Glock and then proclaimed they were junk, most hadn't the instruction to understand the fundamentals and apply them.
Again, do point out where I said training was needed to shoot a Glock and only a Glock. Your ability to comprehend needs work. Aside from the vast majority not having the skills to understand or master the fundamentals. Do tell, what are the VALID reasons why yourself or others dislike the Glock? Could you offer advantages of other designs over the Glock to support your claims?
On a final note. If Glocks are such horrible guns, why are they the number one choice for LE around the globe? Why are more and more MIL units running them? And last but not least, why has every major manufacturer produced a similar copy of them to the market? Surely you aren't going to say that polymer guns are junk?
S&W M&P
S&W Sigma
Walther p99
Walther PPQ
Steyr M9
Springfield XD
The Russian Strike
Kahr Arms
Ruger SR 9
Taurus PT 24/7
Caracal
CZ (polymer)
HK (polymer)
FN (polymer)
Beretta (polymer)
SIG (polymer)
Please, fill myself and others in on the drawbacks to a Glock. Inquiring minds would like to know.
TDC
You must suffer the same comprehension problems as jeffcarr88. Nowhere did I say Glocks are perfect, nor did I say they never fail. All tools/machines fail, Glocks simply fail less than other pistols. Again, I never said you couldn't hit paper without training, I simply said you could do it more effectively and efficiently with some. I guess improving ones abilities is not high on the list for many. As for problems with any firearm, a lot of them are attributed to the owner playing with them and/or reloaded ammo. If you remove these factors and examine stock guns with failures, the numbers for all makes and models goes way down.
TDC
I had a G17 Gen 4 that would bounce brass off the fore head of anyone who used it,Did i like the Glock? Yes,But it wasnt for me so i sold it and bought a CZ Shadow and i couldnt be happier.
And Jeffcarr is in this thread to troll and is drunk on his HK coolaid,Chill out TO Boy.
And Jeffcarr is in this thread to troll and is drunk on his HK coolaid,Chill out TO Boy.
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I echo TDC's sentiment, My Glock 17 G4 and my CZ Shadow have NEVER failed not even once. Stock on both with Manufacturer AMMO.
.. I spend my money on reliability first and foremost, then learn to shoot them.
Over and out shoot what you want.
.. I spend my money on reliability first and foremost, then learn to shoot them.
Over and out shoot what you want.
The Gen4 guns I have limited experience with but there's no doubt they've had their issues. Personally I don't like what glock did with the design ala Gen4.
Tdc
Wholly Jebus guys...all the OP wanted to know was why so many stove pipes!! You guys are carrying on like someone insulted your wives/ mothers! Calm the fu<k down.
