glock failure
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Two reasons, reliability and price.
Between the top LEO and MIL pistols, SIGs, Berettas, H&K, and Glocks, there is very little difference in reliability. With any of these pistols, it comes down to preference and cost factors for supplying end users. We can all quote stats as to which brand is the best, used by who, how many etc but when it comes down to it any of the above are quality and dependable choices. In addition, all of the above have had some quality issues not a result of end user interaction or error.
Interesting vid, and what the narrator is saying is hard to refute, but I'm still not buying it. As one of my posts pointed out, my first hand experience was not limp wristing rather it appeared to be a "break in" issue or perhaps the gun wasn't assembled correctly from Glock. {I took it out of the case, ran a boresnake through it and began shooting} I have a serious problem believing the latter but it is a possibility.
After a spray lube, no more stove piping {or the limp wristing magically disappeared take your pick} from failure to fix = about a half hour which is the time it took to pack up from the shooting line, take it to the shop, and back to the line.
I wonder if the Glock pistol's slide characteristics {recoil/weight/inertia/spring resistance} aren't engineered with the designed 17 round magazine loaded to capacity? As our loaded mags are 10 rounds max. That leaves the weight of 7, 9mm rounds out of the equation which I can imagine would be of assistance to what the guy in the vid is talking about "frame weight"...this however doesn't speak to the last few rounds or the detriment which would be realized if you are to believe in the physics being discussed.
My bet is the gun is fine and so is the shooter's operation of it. The Glock guys are going to hate it...but my G17 needed to be "broken in"...that's right! I said it!
Flamesuit on...roast away boys!
After a spray lube, no more stove piping {or the limp wristing magically disappeared take your pick} from failure to fix = about a half hour which is the time it took to pack up from the shooting line, take it to the shop, and back to the line.
I wonder if the Glock pistol's slide characteristics {recoil/weight/inertia/spring resistance} aren't engineered with the designed 17 round magazine loaded to capacity? As our loaded mags are 10 rounds max. That leaves the weight of 7, 9mm rounds out of the equation which I can imagine would be of assistance to what the guy in the vid is talking about "frame weight"...this however doesn't speak to the last few rounds or the detriment which would be realized if you are to believe in the physics being discussed.
My bet is the gun is fine and so is the shooter's operation of it. The Glock guys are going to hate it...but my G17 needed to be "broken in"...that's right! I said it!
Flamesuit on...roast away boys!
And there is the tired old argument about price point. Glock isn't the only company capable of offering insane low prices to persuade a deal. Smith and Wesson practically invented it and Beretta whored out enough to move shop. Price point is over played and of little consequence. If the product was garbage and the price next to free, we would hear about it. Oddly enough, Glock sales have only increased and the number of users who approve of the design is growing as well. Hardly the sign of poor products. Beretta on the other hand, has done nothing but lose sales. For the oldest firearms manufacturer around, they're considered a non contender for MIL and LE sales. Their guns cost more and break more than others as well.
Let me make this clear for the challenged here. If you are limp wristing, your have near zero chance of making effective hits on anything. Limp wristing is a symptom of complete inability and understanding of how to run a handgun. I've never been able to induce a limp wrist stoppage in my Glock and I managed to drop it while trying to do so. Regardless, the reality still stands. Limp wristing, is a user problem, not a design problem.
TDC
Perhaps you should have read the first reason I noted -- reliability. And there is no debating that glocks are inexpensive. I included Glock in with a number of other top performing pistols but you failed to notice that.
I find it funny how some Glock owners feel the over-whelming need to defend Glock to a fault. Is Glock a well designed, capable pistol-yes. Is Glock without quality issues? No.
hey from personal experience i bought a glock with hatred for glock, i never owned a gun that never jammed and i gotta say the glock is #1 right now. that g17 gen4 is a real hero, it jammed on some friends who were mostly limp wristing but never on me. and I wash it in the dishwasher. its perfect, the type of girl you don't bring home to momma ya feel me?
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My 16 year old fires my Glock 22, no problems at all.
Your 16 year old is better than the majority of people who have fired my G34.
Then again, the vast masses of people cant properly use a pistol period, regardless of the make. They simply show up once a month for 100 rounds and figure top notch skills will just happen.
So whats wrong with that? Glock made a gun more reliable then many others and offer it at a cheaper price. Score!
godamn are they ever cheap.
^^^^^^^^bwhahahahaha. so true.
Not as cheap as my Norc Gov 1911. It could soon outstrip my G34 for uber reliability within the initial 10K.
Truth be told, I'm hoping that it will fail, because where do I go from there?
Crazy world we live in when a pistol made by cavemen with clubs and pig steel outdoes a Glock.
It could be the Micky Ward of pistols.....
I do not think anything is wrong with it, that was my point, reliability and price. A good combination for outfitting large and small departments.
Read slowly..Glocks are great guns (I have some), but so are SIGs (I have more), H&K(not for me, mag release sucks), and Berettas (i have some) but like all other top-tier (notice I said top tier and I included Glocks, I am not bashing them). they have had, quality issues.
I agree with that video. Guns should shoot, the whole limp wristing thing with Glock is a flaw of the gun. Still with a proper grip, the flaw is mute.
I really love Berettas as well, i have owned several and they are every bit as reliable as a Glock.
