Glock trying to force Canadian prices up?

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Some interesting developments have occurred in the last 48 hours that we felt Canadian consumers should be aware of...

On Monday December 10th 2007 Glock, Inc. sent a notice to all their US Commercial Distributors advising them to stop supplying Glock products to Questar International a licensed US FFL Dealer located in Port Huron, MI. The reason for this action was that Glock, Inc believes that Questar International is involved in exporting some of these firearms to Canada... apparently Glock doesn't like or want that to happen... wonder why :jerkit:

Over the past 2 years we've worked hard to make Glock products available to Canadian consumers at fair pricing. Apparently Glock and their distributors want to put an end to that and believe that cutting off our supply of Glocks will force Canadian prices back up. That is simply not going to happen!

For full details on what Glock has done (including a copy of the letter from Glock, Inc.'s legal counsel) go to our website at: http://questar.ca/Glock_vs_Questar.htm

As you will see Questar is not going to roll over and play dead on this issue... we will continue to insure that Canadian consumers have access to fair pricing on these products, one way or another.

We've also posted the contact info for the people at Glock who've taken these actions... I'm sure that they would like to hear your opinion on what they've done. You are the loyal customers who buy their products... let them know what you think of their attempt to control prices in Canada and force you the buyer to pay higher pricing.

Mark
 
keep up the fight! There is no reason why a GLOCK in Texas should cost $500 and one here should cost $700! Simple price gouging on Canadians, why? because we are used to it!

Times are changing, look at all the cross boarder shopping, if Canadian retailers (in general) or dealers are jacking the price because they "think" profit margins should be 20% in Canada and only 10% in the US then fcuck them!
 
Time to bring the force of CGN will to bear on these people. Letters, phone calls, e-mails.

Mark, can you think of one good reason why Glock would do this? Is there any way that some Liberal or Anti influence in Canada has been pressed on Glock?

Who is the Canadian distributor? Is it likely that they have a hand in this?
 
What a bunch of BS from Glock. What are they tying to do? Seems like a step backward to me especially since S&W offers $50 rebate and two mags on their M&P pistols.

I e-mailed Glock indicating my displeasure with their decision.
 
Sounds like the official glock dealer thought they had an exclusive right to rape people with horrible prices, and now they have had to pull the trump card.
 
Uwish said:
keep up the fight! There is no reason why a GLOCK in Texas should cost $500 and one here should cost $700! Simple price gouging on Canadians, why? because we are used to it!

Times are changing, look at all the cross boarder shopping, if Canadian retailers (in general) or dealers are jacking the price because they "think" profit margins should be 20% in Canada and only 10% in the US then fcuck them!
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WTF are you talking about? We dealers that go through the Canadian distributors are forced to pay more for the guns, because the Canadian distributors pay more for them. Questar is bypassing them and getting the guns for less. There is no gouging on our part. And FWIW I hope Questar can make a go of this as it will benefit all of us.
 
redleg said:
WTF are you talking about? We dealers that go through the Canadian distributors are forced to pay more for the guns, because the Canadian distributors pay more for them. Questar is bypassing them and getting the guns for less. There is no gouging on our part. And FWIW I hope Questar can make a go of this as it will benefit all of us.
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Redleg is absolutely right... it is not the dealers in Canada who are to blame for higher pricing... they have been getting manuipulated by the manufacturers and distributors for years. When we started offering Glock pistols 2 years ago the Canadian distributor was charging dealers $792.00 wholesale (plus shipping) for the same gun that was selling for @ $500 retail in the United States. Don't blame the dealers... they have been pawns in the games played by the manufacturers and their distributors.

Mark
 
Email sent:

Mr. Jones,

I am currently shopping for a pair of polymer framed handguns for myself and my wife. Your model 17 and model 26 pistols were at the top of my list, however due to Glock Inc’s distribution policies concerning Canada, I will now be considering Smith and Wesson and Springfield Armoury’s products.

Can you explain why it is that Canadians are being forced to pay $750 for pistols that can be had for $450 south of the border? The cost of import and export paperwork doesn’t come near to explaining the discrepancy. Is there some other force at play here, or does Glock Inc. feel that its Canadian customers are rubes who are ready to be fleeced by manufacturers and distributors who collude to gouge the Canadian public?

If Smith and Wesson are willing to enable their Canadian dealers to sell a pair of M&P pistols to me at a fair price and will go so far as to honour their promotional rebates in Canada, why should I buy Glock?

Sincerely,

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I think GLOCK is playing this game because they know that there not alot of options for Canadians who want a polymer pistol, mostly because of the 12.6 rules.

The Americans, on the other hand, have many pistols to choose from and as such GLOCK must lower their prices to stay competitive. But here they are free to screw us over. I wonder if the same is happening in other nations? But yeah, this does suck.
 
I just got off the phone with Mr Jones. I told him I was a firearms owner from Canada and that I was wondering why I had to pay what I pay for a Glock. He connected the dots to Questar and told me that "they were illegally exporting Glock pistols with after market barrels, thereby voiding the warranty" and that they would no longer be doing that.

I asked him why I should pay for a 750 for a Glock 17 and he told me that it was not his fault and its all because of duties and importing fees. He said the US and American pricing structure was set like that to "avoid fluctuation's" :jerkit:

I said I was unhappy and told him that my G19 will be the last Glock I ever own (not that hard for me, I hate glocks!)
 
Silverado said:
Time to bring the force of CGN will to bear on these people.
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More like bring the whine of CGN to bear....
Somebody call a Whaaaaaambulance

Business is business....

'Don't like the price then don't buy the product.
 
Sorry, I'm not familiar with CGN dealership forum crossover rules, but would this merit being posted elsewhere so that there would be more traffic? If this is against the rules, then of course, backed-off I am.
 
scotty said:
I just got off the phone with Mr Jones. I told him I was a firearms owner from Canada and that I was wondering why I had to pay what I pay for a Glock. He connected the dots to Questar and told me that "they were illegally exporting Glock pistols with after market barrels, thereby voiding the warranty" and that they would no longer be doing that.
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How are we "illegally exporting Glock pistols"... we have properly approved Export Permits from US State Department authorizing the export of the firearms and barrels to Canada so I don't see how he could make such a statement.

As far as "aftermarket barrels" what is wrong with that? BarSto, EFK, KKM, Jarvis, Lone Wolf, Storm Lake and many others sell 1,000's of aftermarket barrels for Glocks and owners install them all the time... how is that illegal or wrong?

Mark
 
Questar said:
. When we started offering Glock pistols 2 years ago the Canadian distributor was charging dealers $792.00 wholesale (plus shipping) for the same gun that was selling for @ $500 retail in the United States. Don't blame the dealers... they have been pawns in the games played by the manufacturers and their distributors.

Mark
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And what's wrong with that..? It's like that with pretty much every product.. Nowhere is it written that everyone gets to pay the same price for anything...
It might not seem fair, but as far as Glocks go I know of at least three tiers of pricing... There's your retail which is well, whatever the public is willing to pay, there's what I paid under a Glock sponsored LE promo and then if you buy enough at a time the price is $485 ea.
 
And what did you pay for the LEO price because the LE price in the U.S. IS $380.00 I bet you didn,t pay that price here in Canada because I didn,t so it would seem the consumer here be it law enforcement or civilian can just pay more because you are Canadian EH.

It is fine to make a profit but not to the point where you are robbing them by charging double in some cases. Is that okay with you or would you like to get a fair price.
 
ops_3329 said:
It is fine to make a profit but not to the point where you are robbing them by charging double in some cases. Is that okay with you or would you like to get a fair price.
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It's fine with me... They can charge whatever they want.
'Doesn't mean I have to buy their stuff.

They only reason Glock inc. or any other company is in business is to make profit. Money... lots of money.

If they increase their profit by charging more for their product that's their choice. If the Price gets too high for the market to bear they can choose to try something else.

As for us here in Canada... We really are not in a position to bargain. Glock sales could completely dry up here and I doubt Glock inc. would suffer at all.
 
This is a funny situation. I want to boycott Glock products but I want to support Questar. Guess I need to buy a Glock from Questar and hate myself for doing it.
 
Here is the E-mail i just sended:

Good day M. Jones,

I write you in reaction to the letter that you sent to many american firearms dealers saying that they should not sell to Questar International. I would like to mention that for more than 15 years the canadian firearms community has been the victim of the country's liberals and politicians. Fortunately, with the arrival of a new governement in Ottawa the wind has turned in Canada for the firearm community.

I am very dissapointed to hear that you dont like the fact that Questar Intl. is selling Glock producs at a fair price. Why Canadian pistol enthousiast should pay 799$ for a pistol when the same Glock sells for 500$ in the U.S ?

There is nothing illegal with the actions of Questar intl. since properly approved Export Permits from US State Department authorizing the export of the firearms and barrels to Canada is issued to the enterprise. The only conclusion that we can think is that your brand want to artificially keep the price high for the Canadian buyer.

I always liked Glocks pistols, but with the arrival of new and agressive competitors in the canadian market like Smith and wesson with their M&P, Sig sauer with their sig pro series and Beretta with their PX4, just to name a few. Canadian consumers have now more choice for a polymer frame pistol.

I just hope that you will find a solution to offer the Glock brand of pistol to the Canadian market at a fairer price. With the strenght of our dollar, it is unnacceptable that we pay 40% more for the same producs that the southern consumers pay. One thing is for sure, trying to ban and make bad publicity for a dealer that serves canadians with exemplary rectitude put shade the Glock brand. I think that Glock's history of innovation deserves better.

Thank you very much for your consideration

Memnoch
Canada
 
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