Good semi-auto "hunting" rifles?
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Amphibious said:
You must be a dammmmm good shot Amp to be able to knock down 3 deer with ONE shot
You must also be dammmm lucky to never have to shoot where there might be a branch, twig to slightly deflect your bullet!
You must also be a wonderfull shot on moose where if you have a cow licence, you can quickly & easily (read one shot) dispatch both cow & calf
I suppose you also use a single shot for duck hunting too
I'd also like to know just what caliber is required that will knock an animal immediately to the ground so you don't have to spend an hr in the muskeg? because those of us that actually do hunt know exactely where a lung shot moose will be in the 100yds it takes for them to fall over & die
rideauwrangler
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I've only heard good things about BARs. I personnally don't own one but a co-worker of mine swares by them. Beleive it or not I have used my sks for deer hunting and it has never let me down.
OK, enough with trashing Ontario, grow the #### up. Anphib, I've read what you said, and yes, your Narrow minded with regards to the topic.
BC hunters reign supreme!!!!! There you happy?
You can draw your political lines where you want, but the only people your pissing off, are the people that feel the same way as you, but are from a different province. C'mon, I figured a guy with your backround wouldnt draw such prejudice lines in the sand.
Now, ask most of the guys on this site here that hunt in Ontario and party hunt. (Unfortunately, this term often confuses most people to the point of slander)
Guys who you know are knowledgeable shooters such as senior, Redd,JYC, Doug etc.
When you party hunt, your not only shooting for 1 guy, your shooting for your whole party. Whether it be 2 guys, or 15. Everyone is working together for an opportunity to take the shot/ shots. Often on drives or when dogs or doggers are used, you have not one or two, ten deer to pick from, you have one or two deer your expected to shoot if they run by you.
Now, Im not saying Im a good shooter but I can rattle em off pretty quick with a boltgun (left or right handed, Im a left handed shooter) lever, pump, or semi. I even got pretty quick reloading my Ruger #1 when I had it
But in a situation where multiple shots are presented, and expected, you cant tell me that you are able to make multiple aimed shots while three deer are running by you at 75 yards in the hardwoods with a boltgun or single shot.
You might actually be able to, but than again,you can golf pebble beach with only your 9 iron too, but obviously its not your best choice.
I've fired 5-10 shots at game, and have had results to show for it with multiple deer down. There have been days that I have kissed the semi/pump/lever rifle in my hands, and days I have cursed them. The point im tryingto make, is I understand that your hunt in many cases is much different than we hunt out east here. But for christ sakes, take your nose out of the clouds, and try to understand the different in the dynamics of our deer hunt from yours. Clarke has had a chance to see what we consider deer bush out here in southern ontario. Some choose to hunt fields, and some hunt swamps. Im most cases, you dont glass, stalk range and shoot your quarry out here, you walk up on em, or they walk up on you.
Anphib, C'mon out for an Ontario deer hunt, and you'll see what I mean.
BC hunters reign supreme!!!!! There you happy?
You can draw your political lines where you want, but the only people your pissing off, are the people that feel the same way as you, but are from a different province. C'mon, I figured a guy with your backround wouldnt draw such prejudice lines in the sand.
Now, ask most of the guys on this site here that hunt in Ontario and party hunt. (Unfortunately, this term often confuses most people to the point of slander)
Guys who you know are knowledgeable shooters such as senior, Redd,JYC, Doug etc.
When you party hunt, your not only shooting for 1 guy, your shooting for your whole party. Whether it be 2 guys, or 15. Everyone is working together for an opportunity to take the shot/ shots. Often on drives or when dogs or doggers are used, you have not one or two, ten deer to pick from, you have one or two deer your expected to shoot if they run by you.
Now, Im not saying Im a good shooter but I can rattle em off pretty quick with a boltgun (left or right handed, Im a left handed shooter) lever, pump, or semi. I even got pretty quick reloading my Ruger #1 when I had it
But in a situation where multiple shots are presented, and expected, you cant tell me that you are able to make multiple aimed shots while three deer are running by you at 75 yards in the hardwoods with a boltgun or single shot.
You might actually be able to, but than again,you can golf pebble beach with only your 9 iron too, but obviously its not your best choice.
I've fired 5-10 shots at game, and have had results to show for it with multiple deer down. There have been days that I have kissed the semi/pump/lever rifle in my hands, and days I have cursed them. The point im tryingto make, is I understand that your hunt in many cases is much different than we hunt out east here. But for christ sakes, take your nose out of the clouds, and try to understand the different in the dynamics of our deer hunt from yours. Clarke has had a chance to see what we consider deer bush out here in southern ontario. Some choose to hunt fields, and some hunt swamps. Im most cases, you dont glass, stalk range and shoot your quarry out here, you walk up on em, or they walk up on you.
Anphib, C'mon out for an Ontario deer hunt, and you'll see what I mean.
senior said:I'd also like to know just what caliber is required that will knock an animal immediately to the ground so you don't have to spend an hr in the muskeg? because those of us that actually do hunt know exactely where a lung shot moose will be in the 100yds it takes for them to fall over & die
have Watched 11 moose fall over (7 this fall), one of them my own. NONE went more then 50yrds. 3 of them fell within 10. Those who actually do hunt? well you sir can #### right off
DarrylDB said:
Been on a few, not saying they wern't a good time, but just not my thing, so I'll pass thanks.
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This is very entertaining. You guys should go on Jerry Springer.
Personally, as a new shooter/hunter I absolutely won't hunt with a semi until I'm very comfortable with it and can be sure to keep it on target for multiple quick shots - this will take a lot of practice at the range, not to mention a lot of hunting experience.
However, for a good shooter I think it's a wonderful option to have - not a crutch at all.
I think the problem is that it is used as a crutch by some inexperienced/bad shooters and usually has messy results. Maybe there are more (Southern) Ontario hunters that fall into this category simply because of the nature of many of our hunts (as mentioned) and because people keep saying it's an advantage. That's tough to resist if you're new/bad...
Anyway, I think I'd take a Belgian BAR over most others. My friend has one and although he buys and sells and trades a lot, I don't think he'll ever get rid of his BAR.
Personally, as a new shooter/hunter I absolutely won't hunt with a semi until I'm very comfortable with it and can be sure to keep it on target for multiple quick shots - this will take a lot of practice at the range, not to mention a lot of hunting experience.
However, for a good shooter I think it's a wonderful option to have - not a crutch at all.
I think the problem is that it is used as a crutch by some inexperienced/bad shooters and usually has messy results. Maybe there are more (Southern) Ontario hunters that fall into this category simply because of the nature of many of our hunts (as mentioned) and because people keep saying it's an advantage. That's tough to resist if you're new/bad...
Anyway, I think I'd take a Belgian BAR over most others. My friend has one and although he buys and sells and trades a lot, I don't think he'll ever get rid of his BAR.
I have a remington model 742 in 30-06, its an older rifle(1978) and it works like a charm. I recently purchased it this year; its fired a couple boxes of shells without one failure. I suspect that its had proper cleaning and maintenence. You have to be careful with what you buy!!!
There are jammers out there(my buddy has one; never cleaned it in 15 years) So there you go
There are jammers out there(my buddy has one; never cleaned it in 15 years) So there you go
I have a remington model 742 in 30-06, its an older rifle(1978) and it works like a charm. I recently purchased it this year; its fired a couple boxes of shells without one failure. I suspect that its had proper cleaning and maintenence. You have to be careful with what you buy!!!
There are jammers out there(my buddy has one; never cleaned it in 15 years) So there you go
There are jammers out there(my buddy has one; never cleaned it in 15 years) So there you go
"NONE went more then 50yrds. 3 of them fell within 10."
You win Amp
I present you with the new "Captain Deadly Award"
Someday, with practice, maybe all Gunnutz can drop them all dead instantly with one shot just think of the benifits of never having to carry that second bullet when venturing over hill & dale why we could replace it with a yuppy granola bar
You win Amp
I present you with the new "Captain Deadly Award"
Someday, with practice, maybe all Gunnutz can drop them all dead instantly with one shot
just think of the benifits of never having to carry that second bullet when venturing over hill & dale why we could replace it with a yuppy granola bar 
Hey, what about those old Winchesters from the early 1900s? Models 1905, 1907, 1910, aren't they? Big heavy boolits! Those look like danged nice bush guns, no? Anybody hunt something with it? I know I've seen them in the Exchange, and they look pretty cool. Heavy, though.
Grouse Man
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senior said:"NONE went more then 50yrds. 3 of them fell within 10."
You win Amp
I present you with the new "Captain Deadly Award"
Someday, with practice, maybe all Gunnutz can drop them all dead instantly with one shot
What a ####ing ass hat. If you're moose are going 100yards learn to shoot or use a bigger gun. only had one drop where it stood. but there is little thing called patiece, you know where you shoot Mr. Swamp Donkey and you shut up right quick and they stand there looking around untill they fall over. But maybe your moose are a new excited armor plated imortal sub species! Captain Deadly? sorry, don't headshoot or own a .223. I'm done talking to you.
back to the orginal thread. Have a Rem mod 742 .30-06 in the safe. Have taken it out hunting twice. it has jammed twice, never grouped well, and will continue to sit in my safe untill my oldman comes back to canada and collect's it. (it Ain't mine)
Grouseman: I have a Winchester .401SL sitting in the closet. made in 1912 I belive. was supposedly quite the gun for it's time. Prolly won;t ever shoot it, but it will look good on the wall
budget not withstanding
Yep, that's a valid point too. The BARs aren't cheap. I really meant assuming I could afford any one of them I would want. If I would choose any, I'd be as likely to get a BLR as a BAR, but I just wanted some opinions on the auto and its competitors.
Yep, that's a valid point too. The BARs aren't cheap. I really meant assuming I could afford any one of them I would want. If I would choose any, I'd be as likely to get a BLR as a BAR, but I just wanted some opinions on the auto and its competitors.
when a Stevens 200 is $300, I cant see where cheap milsurp semi's are a 'cheap hunting rifle'
I would bet you'd be much ahead of the game with a $300 bolt action than you would be with a $300 misurp semi that probably weighs 10 lbs
I would bet you'd be much ahead of the game with a $300 bolt action than you would be with a $300 misurp semi that probably weighs 10 lbs
todbartell said:when a Stevens 200 is $300, I cant see where cheap milsurp semi's are a 'cheap hunting rifle'
I would bet you'd be much ahead of the game with a $300 bolt action than you would be with a $300 misurp semi that probably weighs 10 lbs
Pardon me, sir, but they don't come with sights.
So the M14 stays on top.....
On the other hand a decent upgrade to M305 is likely to be costy.
I don't like cheap guns. It is a passion....making them shoot better, more reliable... Spent a truckload on my 10/22 and I like it.
I've hunted both with expensive and less expensive rifles. Might be my luck but I've always taken more game with the not so fancy tools.
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My brother has my dad's old Rem 740 in a 243 and that gun can really shoot. The thing hardly ever gets cleaned, my brother i am sure has never had it apart since he got it about 15 years ago?? No kidding , he just wipes inside the action w/cu-tip and thats about it. It never jams or at least hardly ever and is very accurate. Pisses me off cause I wanted that gun My little cousin has the exact gun in 308 and it works about the same. I think these are real good guns and I like em!
My little cousin has the exact gun in 308 and it works about the same. I think these are real good guns and I like em!
eltorro said:
The cheapest price on the Norinco is $399. The Stevens is $299. I bet a 'smith can put a good (much better than the Norinco's) set of open sights for less than $100, and then Sir, the Stevens is on top!
All kidding aside, I can't see how someone who is on a budget would be better off buying an M-305 over a Stevens. The M-305 is designed to be used with certain ammo, and requires work to make it shoot decently. The Stevens on the other hand will eat any ammo and seem to shoot MOA or close right out of the box. How can you even compare the two???? Not knocking the Norinco's, they serve a purpose.
A couple of years ago I bought a M-305, shot it once at the range and then promptly sold it.1899 said:The cheapest price on the Norinco is $399. The Stevens is $299. I bet a 'smith can put a good (much better than the Norinco's) set of open sights for less than $100, and then Sir, the Stevens is on top!
All kidding aside, I can't see how someone who is on a budget would be better off buying an M-305 over a Stevens. The M-305 is designed to be used with certain ammo, and requires work to make it shoot decently. The Stevens on the other hand will eat any ammo and seem to shoot MOA or close right out of the box. How can you even compare the two???? Not knocking the Norinco's, they serve a purpose.
They suck for hunting. Way too heavy, esp with a scope, and handle like a log.
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