You would be really on my case, Bruce, if I had shown a picture of the Oxhead I have in a plastic handle!
Ted
Great Mysteries of the Sporting Arms World
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You would be really on my case, Bruce, if I had shown a picture of the Oxhead I have in a plastic handle!
Ted
it is the Pelly, just downstream from its confluence with the Houle. You can see the current from the Houle running in from the right.
Great place to fish grayling and call moose!
Ted
Hey 'Looky.............not sure I have anything to add here.......other than if Angus would wish to extend the same challenge to me as he did GH I would happily take him up on it..........Dog Leg asks the best questions and Ted is the most grounded............as far as magnums go I love them all.........I too hate the guys at the range without spotting scopes and all you who have bad mouthed Remingtons can bite me !!!!
My only true mystery in life is.........how does one understand a woman, and why the f**k would anyone get a vasectomy..........That word is not in my vocabulary.......divorce yes......vasectomy, never........like the old bumper sticker " My wife yes.......my dog maybe.....my nuts NEVER"...........or something like that.
Or why would anyone want a 23 cal rifle............I now have 4 more barrels though, I can now complete my family.......
My only true mystery in life is.........how does one understand a woman, and why the f**k would anyone get a vasectomy..........That word is not in my vocabulary.......divorce yes......vasectomy, never........like the old bumper sticker " My wife yes.......my dog maybe.....my nuts NEVER"...........or something like that.
Or why would anyone want a 23 cal rifle............I now have 4 more barrels though, I can now complete my family.......
Ain't no way a scope's faster- a red dot has its place but I hate batteries and stuff to rattle loose. I'm probably not terribly far from you these days, and I'd like to meet you we have mutual acquaintances, want to meet up for a friendly and do a speed shoot, irons versus glass with .375s?
I've seen loose mounts multiple times, and full out internal scope failure (Bushnell, so no not quality glass admittedly) on hunts. Worst I've had with irons is the rear sight Jack getting rammed all the way forward and I shot the wrong grouse! Kid you not and cringe to mention this part as it sounds like a stretch, but hit a grouse upslope and behind the one I was shooting at without meaning to. So I suppose irons still haven't failed me!
I tried both scoped and irons at the range today. 2 shots at 50 yards. Scope was a tiny bit faster, a little under 3 seconds from mounting the rifle to second shot. Irons were about 3 seconds. Not much difference in speed. Difference was the accuracy, much better with scope.
2 with scope:
2 with irons. First one on left edge of target. Oops! SO embarrassing....
So for me, anyway, the scope is faster and more accurate. However I shoot rifles with some sort of optic far more often than with irons. I feel I do much better with an aperture sight closer to the eye, too, but the reality is I take longer with irons than I used to 20 years ago....
Tried 3 shots and it was a repeat- Similar times but scope was more accurate
Anyway, I think it's like what I mentioned before- It's what you practice with and are used to.
I tried both scoped and irons at the range today. 2 shots at 50 yards. Scope was a tiny bit faster, a little under 3 seconds from mounting the rifle to second shot. Irons were about 3 seconds. Not much difference in speed. Difference was the accuracy, much better with scope.
2 with scope:
2 with irons. First one on left edge of target. Oops! SO embarrassing....
So for me, anyway, the scope is faster and more accurate. However I shoot rifles with some sort of optic far more often than with irons. I feel I do much better with an aperture sight closer to the eye, too, but the reality is I take longer with irons than I used to 20 years ago....
Tried 3 shots and it was a repeat- Similar times but scope was more accurate
Anyway, I think it's like what I mentioned before- It's what you practice with and are used to.
Yep... that imperical test is pretty definitive... that settles it then, irons are more accurate and only a little faster... er... something like that.
I find the scope faster if there is any range at all involved, and precise hits are still needed. For absolute powder burn and time sensitive range a guy would be better off with no sights at all than a scope that is just in the way. When its time to just point the gun and pull the trigger irons are easier to ignore. I'm practicing unsighted fire with a scope for that one in a few thousand shot where I wish I didn't have a scope mounted.
That reminds me of a picture from a few years ago of a guy pointing his rifle at a charging grizzly. From the position of his head it appeared that he was just sighting down the barrel and ignoring the scope.
When questioned about it he confirmed he indeed was, but he hadn't realized it at the time, just went on instinct.
BigUglyMan
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Best CGN analogy yet!
Johnn Peterson
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Same here.
Picked up mine at P&d a few years ago, when I was there for my 1st Mule Deer hunt on draw. Decided it would come in handy for sideline gopher hunts while there.
