Gunsmith wanted to lengthen S+W Model 19 12.6 revolver
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I got an S&W 15-2 from Murray re-barrellled with the full underlug barrel and completely refinished as new. This was just before he closed shop. It's just too bad that he's closed/retired because this is certainly the way to go for a well finished and very accurate revolver. I found a set of Herretts grips for it.
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actually it's easier to attach the extra 1/4 inch at the front of barrel, alot of Model 15s have been done that way .... check with Sheldon Stoller in Winnipeg he has done several and very nice jobs. He's on CGN.
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Not listed on their site, https://www.tradeexcanada.com/parts/36 but it never hurts to speak to a human and ask.
Any 38 cal "K" frame barrel will have the same thread pitch and diameter.
I have fitted a heavy take off 6 inch bbl, stamped 38 special onto my Mod 19. All I had to do was turn down the shoulder of the tenon and forcing cone face for proper indexing and gap/cylinder clearance. The steel used in the barrel is the same as that on the Mod 19. The only difference is the cartridge stamp.
This isn't rocket science. S&W has some smart people and they work with what they have on hand as much as possible, to keep things standardized and cheaper to produce.
The Model 19 is a "K" frame revolver. It utilizes as many parts in the series as possible. Don't complicate that which isn't complicated.
If push comes to shove, and you can't get a barrel into Canada, because of Covid issues or you don't want to go through the minimal hassle of dealing with a broker, TradeX, a banner sponsor, has surplus 38 S&W restricted length bbls. These will turn into your frame with minimal smithing and get your pistol out of prohib class, until you can source a proper barrel.
The barrel will be fine for 38 spl at the very least.
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I have fitted a heavy take off 6 inch bbl, stamped 38 special onto my Mod 19. All I had to do was turn down the shoulder of the tenon and forcing cone face for proper indexing and gap/cylinder clearance. The steel used in the barrel is the same as that on the Mod 19. The only difference is the cartridge stamp.
This isn't rocket science. S&W has some smart people and they work with what they have on hand as much as possible, to keep things standardized and cheaper to produce.
The Model 19 is a "K" frame revolver. It utilizes as many parts in the series as possible. Don't complicate that which isn't complicated.
If push comes to shove, and you can't get a barrel into Canada, because of Covid issues or you don't want to go through the minimal hassle of dealing with a broker, TradeX, a banner sponsor, has surplus 38 S&W restricted length bbls. These will turn into your frame with minimal smithing and get your pistol out of prohib class, until you can source a proper barrel.
The barrel will be fine for 38 spl at the very least.
Smith & Wesson 5 inch Barrels in 38 S&W - $75
Smith & Wesson 5 inch Barrels in 38 S&W. Excellent condition in the grease. Priced per unit.
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I think those barrels that Anthony had are all gone, unless he got more in.
If you add a bit to the end of the barrel, it has to be bored out and a full length a liner installed.
If they changed that I havn't heard, nothing surprises me anymore.
If you add a bit to the end of the barrel, it has to be bored out and a full length a liner installed.
If they changed that I havn't heard, nothing surprises me anymore.
this wouldn't surprise me, otherwise there is nothing stopping someone from removing the added piece at a later time.
Last I read, the *current* standard for lengthened barrels was *rifled* extensions from the same material as the original.
That's a high bar to achieve. (Full length internal rifled sleeve would be a variant of that requirement).
Replacement brl likely simpler approach.
That's a high bar to achieve. (Full length internal rifled sleeve would be a variant of that requirement).
Replacement brl likely simpler approach.
I suppose you are right, but if it is just an extension, one could remove it fairly easy and have the same cal and barrel as before it was put on. cutting the barrel down on a drilled and sleeved would leave you with a bubba'd gun.
If they are out of stock, it only happened very recently. TEC is pretty good at keeping their stock availability updated.
Bear, your right, I was thinking of something else, or he may have got more.
Something I see, 2 P 08 barrels, 4 1/4", someone should jump on those, I am out of the game, heart problems.
Re barrel extensions, Read the regulations, you can't just weld a 1/4 in end on your 4 inch barrel
You have to have the rifling full length, ie liner. You could change the caliber I suppose, liners and high pressure don't work.
Been there done that. 38 O.K.
If some one was doing it, I would drill from the from the front only, and stop about 3/8 - 1/2 in before the forcing cone, as that is where it all goes to hell with Hi Pressure loads.
You barrel and liner will have to be a bit longer.
Best is just find , or make a new barrel. The ones I have seen that blow up where 66 barrels, stainless, which could be part of the problem, I don't like stainless.
Something I see, 2 P 08 barrels, 4 1/4", someone should jump on those, I am out of the game, heart problems.
Re barrel extensions, Read the regulations, you can't just weld a 1/4 in end on your 4 inch barrel
You have to have the rifling full length, ie liner. You could change the caliber I suppose, liners and high pressure don't work.
Been there done that. 38 O.K.
If some one was doing it, I would drill from the from the front only, and stop about 3/8 - 1/2 in before the forcing cone, as that is where it all goes to hell with Hi Pressure loads.
You barrel and liner will have to be a bit longer.
Best is just find , or make a new barrel. The ones I have seen that blow up where 66 barrels, stainless, which could be part of the problem, I don't like stainless.
Those barrels are marked 38 Smith and Wesson, not 38 Special. However, they have the same bore diameter and will shoot just fine with 38 spcl ammo. I don't believe there would be any issues with 357 magnum ammo either but????????????????????
As for someone willing and able to do the work, any competent gunsmith with a lathe and a set of feeler guages to check the gap between the cylinder and the forcing cone should be able to do the simple math it takes to index the barrel properly, when tight and trim the forcing cone for the proper gap.
This isn't forbidden alchemy or rocket science.
This is a simple machinist/gunsmith project. If they've done it before, takes less than an hour.
Youtube has several videos on how to do this job.
Bits of Pieces out of Delta, BC can and will do the job for you professionally and properly.
You're in Golden, look up Bill Leeper. He lives somewhere in the Kootenay region. I've met him at the Cranbrook/Marysville gun shows and seen some of his work. It's very good. He's close enough to take a drive to, but it would be cheaper to mail it. He might have even had a NON RESTRICTED BARREL in one of his bins.
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Peter Riedel (Rusty Wood) here in Mission put a Tradex .38 S&W barrel on a Model 10 for me. $200 as I recall.
I removed the parkerizing and blued it with Mark Lee Express Blue.
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He/ whoever has to have a prohited 12-6 license to do this . The owner could spin the old barrel off, spin the new one on, may or may not spin right on.
Than phone the tec's and get it verified over the phone, maybe??> Old barrel has to be turned in will take lots of pictures and emails.
Simpler just right a cheque to a licensed gunsmith that can also verify it and do the paper work.
BTW this is the cheapest way to go from 12-6 to restricted, well cheaper if you do your own work, From what I hear these barrels work fine with 38 special.
357M , maybe ? would depend on the steel in those barrels, but I would buy a heavy frame gun like a 28 if you shot lots of 357m .
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