Hand gun Hunting
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I think some people are missing a point about handgun hunting, and that is that handguns can be just as effective as any other gun, even at long ranges. I have seen tons of this on TV done in the states, hunters out with a 500 S&W magnum taking deer at 150 yards, using a scope of course. Or other hunters taking boar with a glock 17...
Hunting with a handgun is no different than hunting with a bow, a shotgun or a rifle. You have to know your firearms limits and stay within them. Different handguns will open you up to different game at different ranges, and there are no concerns about stopping power with many handgun calibers, ie, 44 mag.
Hunting with a handgun is no different than hunting with a bow, a shotgun or a rifle. You have to know your firearms limits and stay within them. Different handguns will open you up to different game at different ranges, and there are no concerns about stopping power with many handgun calibers, ie, 44 mag.
When shooting from a rest and I do my part I can hit an 8" X 10" target with every shot at 100 yards with my single action 5.5" Ruger Bisley Vaquero's in 45 Colt and those are my little handguns...
Is that good enough for handgun hunting for you or are you still against it?
Is that good enough for handgun hunting for you or are you still against it?
Thats a 45 colt at 100 yards, a little beyond its effective range. But that is also his little gun. Bigger handguns are capable of better accuracy, I've seen it.
I have shoot with guys who can hit steel gongs at 100 yards without even trying that hard.
Whether or not you can dispatch your quarry at whatever range is a judgement call of the hunter, many people with rifles will shoot at animals not knowing exactly where the bullet will hit, if at all.
This isn't a reason to not allow the use of handguns for hunting, because it applies to all mediums of hunting, whether it would be bow or slingshot
I am not saying to not allow it I guess. I am saying choose the right tool for the job. Exceptional people can make exceptional shots.
I am all on the side of the dudes that want to hunt moose with a bat, or grizz with a bowie.... Natural selection!
I am sure a large calibre scoped handgun in competent hands would be an effective hunting tool.
We have bigger fish to fry first. If carry for self defence is allowed, then hunting in a way or ATT for pred. protection is non issue. IMHO, if I am allowed...
I got called a liberal today! Yes!!!!
I am all on the side of the dudes that want to hunt moose with a bat, or grizz with a bowie.... Natural selection!
I am sure a large calibre scoped handgun in competent hands would be an effective hunting tool.
We have bigger fish to fry first. If carry for self defence is allowed, then hunting in a way or ATT for pred. protection is non issue. IMHO, if I am allowed...
I got called a liberal today! Yes!!!!
Just because *you* aren't proficient enough to kill effectively with a handgun, does not mean that others are not.
Probably because they are run by hand wringing bed wetters?
It takes all of these things to hit lethally with a rifle or bow, too....
Exactly.....
Know your limits and stay within them. There will always be the one box of "shells" a year hunter who takes 700 yard shots on running game with his .30-06, and there will always be guys who stretch it with a handgun...Unless we are going to demand proficiency tests with all weapons, it's something that we have to try to educate people on, not just say "you MIGHT have problems so you can't do this!"
UnGGhhh
....your full of SH**I know alot of hunters with long guns that have trouble shooting less than 5 inch groups @ 100 yards ....but yet brag they are deadly on game out to 400
.It doesn't matter if its Rifle, Shotgun, Archery or Handgun...if the hunter puts in the required practice, knows his equipment and effective range all will be well and steaks will be in the freezer.
A handgun in the hands of a seasoned hunter is just as deadly as a rifle, shotgun, muzzleloader, or bow.
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I am reading that some have no idea how effective/accurate handgun rounds actually are and I am also seeing that specialty single shot handguns are not being thought about for handgun hunting...
I'm playing with a 21" T/C Contender carbine in 375JDJ right now the round was designed in the 1970's by a fellow named JD Jones this round loaded in 12" - 14" single shot handguns accounted for 18 elephants and countless other animals in 1984 alone.
Even a lowly 45 Colt loaded up with a 300gr - 345gr WLNGC hard cast .360" meplat @ 1200fps to 1280fps creates a wound cavity far beyond what it should and when using heavy for caliber rounds the penetration is unbelieveable...
Then try stepping up just to a 454 Casull with 360gr - 405gr WLNGC's @ 1520fps to 1330fps and I'm not even talking about the bigger cartridges...
Remember an original 45-70 fired 500gr bullets @ 1330fps and the carbines a 400gr bullet @ 1400fps and these were used to kill almost every type of animal in the North America.
I have 6 rounds comparible to original 400gr 45-70 loads in my 4 1/4" Ruger Super Redhawk...
I'm playing with a 21" T/C Contender carbine in 375JDJ right now the round was designed in the 1970's by a fellow named JD Jones this round loaded in 12" - 14" single shot handguns accounted for 18 elephants and countless other animals in 1984 alone.
Even a lowly 45 Colt loaded up with a 300gr - 345gr WLNGC hard cast .360" meplat @ 1200fps to 1280fps creates a wound cavity far beyond what it should and when using heavy for caliber rounds the penetration is unbelieveable...
Then try stepping up just to a 454 Casull with 360gr - 405gr WLNGC's @ 1520fps to 1330fps and I'm not even talking about the bigger cartridges...
Remember an original 45-70 fired 500gr bullets @ 1330fps and the carbines a 400gr bullet @ 1400fps and these were used to kill almost every type of animal in the North America.
I have 6 rounds comparible to original 400gr 45-70 loads in my 4 1/4" Ruger Super Redhawk...
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Pretty lame argument.
"I don't know the skill level of other hunters, so let's not allow it"
You don't know the skill level of the rifle, shotgun or bow hunters, either. I suppose that must have escaped you?
I think that hand gun hunting I perfectly legitimate and should be allowed.
On any given day there are a basket load of laws I stumble across that dont make any sense and this is just another nonsensical limitation imposed on the good people pf Canada.
Sure! You can bow hunt, black powder hunt, hell! You can even hunt with a firearm that is over a hundred years old, not to mention a semi auto .50cal, tripod mounted, belt fed MG.
But nope sorry. Your evil .454 cassul has to stay home.
On any given day there are a basket load of laws I stumble across that dont make any sense and this is just another nonsensical limitation imposed on the good people pf Canada.
Sure! You can bow hunt, black powder hunt, hell! You can even hunt with a firearm that is over a hundred years old, not to mention a semi auto .50cal, tripod mounted, belt fed MG.
But nope sorry. Your evil .454 cassul has to stay home.
Flintock pistol deer hunt:
A succesful deer hunt with a muzzle loading flintlock pistol. Hunter is injured/or handicaped and has no use of the off hand. Another good reason for handgun hunting. It's a good video, shows the fellow getting used to the gun, sighting it in and learning its limitaions, then taking a deer with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmGoIoKltxw
A succesful deer hunt with a muzzle loading flintlock pistol. Hunter is injured/or handicaped and has no use of the off hand. Another good reason for handgun hunting. It's a good video, shows the fellow getting used to the gun, sighting it in and learning its limitaions, then taking a deer with it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PmGoIoKltxw
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