Gatehouse said:.
Translation:
I have an irrational fear of handguns in the bush, although I relaly can't give any real reason. Also, I htink that it will look bad if we utilize an American idea, even if it is a really good idea, because I am some sort of snob...
Well know we've heard the translation according to Gatehouse!
Gatehouse: My fear is not irrational and it is not a fear of handguns but of handgunners and bullets. Hey I play the odds a bit when I go out where there are longgunners doing their thing. If the idiot is anywhere near his target, he should not be near me. I hope
Hey, I am for making long gun hunters qualify as well
Handgun Hunting Support
- Thread starter SIGP2101
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- Hillbilly shack in the boonies
Watched some wanna be hunters fail to qualify for the NB moose licence .
Target 18x18 inches, 2 hits of 3 shots required anywhere on the target, prone at 40 meters. They got rid of it for what ever reason
Target 18x18 inches, 2 hits of 3 shots required anywhere on the target, prone at 40 meters.
They got rid of it for what ever reason Gatehouse said:And what terrible dreadful thing will befall us if peopel were allowed to go somewhere wihtout a RO to supervise?
Probably get their ass peppered by someone who has enough time to post 10267 nut posts and not enough practise to shoot worth ####
Levi Garrett said:Watched some wanna be hunters fail to qualify for the NB moose licence .
Target 18x18 inches, 2 hits of 3 shots required anywhere on the target, prone at 40 meters.
Thats frightening! But I guess handgunners are better than that
Are you saying that they got rid of the qualification? I would rather put my money towards qualifying shooters and than registering guns!
Ok, settle down
I dare say that Gatehouse hits what he's shooting at more often than not and there's no need to be insulting. Gatehouse has raised a valid question - you express concern over what some folks might be like if they weren't on the range.
I'd be curious to hear a) - why you think rifle shooters would be any different than pistol shooters in that regard - ether would be just as dangerous if they are incompetant, and b) - why you feel this couldn't be addressed one way or another with adequate training requirements?
I'm not a pistol pro by any stretch, but from what i've seen they're not much more inherently prone to accident than a rifle.
Well - that 'fact' is pretty sweeping. Perhaps you're right when discussing a colt 1911 - but i think you'd be hard pressed to demonstrate how a contender with 12 inch barrel was 'designed for short range defense'. Clearly there ARE purpose built hunting rigs and cartridges.
As to training - well that's not hard to deal with, is it. IF it turns out there's a valid concern there, we simply make it a requirement to be able to put 5 rounds out of 5 in a 8 inch pie plate at 50 yards (which i'm reading in this thread is sort of the 'accepted' handgun range? Yes no?) before they get a license.
At 50 yards, with a scoped pistol, i suspect most people could do it with little more practice than it would take to do the same thing at 200 yards with a scoped rifle. Yet we don't worry about new shooters doing that.
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- The Conservative part of Ontario
They'd be a great rig for us guys that walk in heavy bush. Give you both hands free all the time for climbing and crawling through brush, and up cliffs. Range is short anyway.
Even with a rifle, they'd be great for grouse, signalling, and for kill shots.
By the way, I have little difficulty keeping ten shots inside a 12 inch bull at 50 yards ONE HANDED with a 22 target handgun, even with a ruger single six!
Even with a rifle, they'd be great for grouse, signalling, and for kill shots.
By the way, I have little difficulty keeping ten shots inside a 12 inch bull at 50 yards ONE HANDED with a 22 target handgun, even with a ruger single six!
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#### no!!!! That would give every logger, surveyor, rig dude and gas plant operator the ability to grab a deer licence just so he can carry a pistol in the bush. I feel very uneasy about the concealment factor and their is enough of these half cocked city slickers running around the bush right now with attitudes.
.......I voted no for this reason. Ethical kills does not worry me as guys have been doing it with bows and .30-.30 for years.
.......I voted no for this reason. Ethical kills does not worry me as guys have been doing it with bows and .30-.30 for years.
Nothing worse then having to stand 3 feet away from a deer and give it a coup-de-gras with a 12 guage slug.
I'm into haute couture, but wearing brains aint exacly in.
As far as im concerned there are more positive reasons to be able to carry/use then there are reasons not to.
Maybe my sig line should read hand guns instead of weapons!!!!!
I'm into haute couture, but wearing brains aint exacly in.
As far as im concerned there are more positive reasons to be able to carry/use then there are reasons not to.
Maybe my sig line should read hand guns instead of weapons!!!!!
Covey Ridge said:Gatehouse said:Well know we've heard the translation according to Gatehouse!
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You think that a handgunner is more liekly to shoot you in error than a rifleman? Get serious...Rilfe bullets can travel for KM's and be quite lethal, The hand gun is FAR less powerful than a rifle, and a rifle is used at longer ranges, making the identification of a target more difficult.
But still, this is blaming the object for the acitons of people. I guess you muct be REALLY afraid of motor vehicles, eh?
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Just because *YOUR* skill level with a handgun is lacking, why shoudl others that have better skills be penalized?
Whatever qualifications are needed shoudl be used for all hunters. Unless there is a need to demonstrate skill for a rifle or bow, there shoudl be no extra requirements for handguns. It is simply a differnet choice.
Whatever this means??
If you are too proud to take a good idea that someone else has used before, and also use it, then you are pretty much a snob, I am afraid.
Covey Ridge said:Gatehouse said:Probably get their ass peppered by someone who has enough time to post 10267 nut posts and not enough practise to shoot worth s**t
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I really don't have an argument, just irrational fears, so I'll just try to make an insult...YAWN
I think that many (not all) should not be allowed to go anyhwere with a hand gun, including hunting, unless supervised by a range officer.[/QUOTE]
Imagine trusting adults to carry a handgun while hunting without the supervision of another adult with a handgun watching the first adult carrying a handgun and hunting!
Remember the Communist athletes when they visited the West? All had a gaggle of "handlers" with them in case they said or did something wrong.
Why is it some Canadians have difficulty with the concept of freedom? Were they galley slaves in a former life?
Imagine trusting adults to carry a handgun while hunting without the supervision of another adult with a handgun watching the first adult carrying a handgun and hunting!
Remember the Communist athletes when they visited the West? All had a gaggle of "handlers" with them in case they said or did something wrong.
Why is it some Canadians have difficulty with the concept of freedom? Were they galley slaves in a former life?
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- The Conservative part of Ontario
Most of the loggers where I hunt already carry rifles in their trucks. What's the difference if they've got handguns?
- Location
- The Conservative part of Ontario
If we were allowed CCW, I'd probably only carry duing the hunt anyway.
...............If their is no difference when was the last time a drug deal or robbery was commited with a Winchester 94 or a Ruger 77?? We can blab about being united for gun rights and what not but lets face facts. To own a rifle doesn't turn alot of people's crank but give them an easy reason to carry a handgun then you will see.
Win94 said:
What about concelment frightens you?
There are 2 options:
1. Make it illegal to conceal (Oops! it already is illegal to conceal a weapon)
2. Realize that the guy wiht the pistol on his hip went through the same process you did to obtain firearms. In the eyes of the law, he is every bit as "safe" as you to own a firearm.
But again, we are tlaking about the actions of a few, penalizing the rest.
Win94 said:
How many drug dealers are out in the bush whacking peopel in deer season?
I still don't understand what is wrong with a licensed person carrying a handgun in the bush...?
Americans can carry in the bush, and they have relatively few problems wiht misuse of handguns in hunting seasons by hunters.
Its like the Metis thing in Alberta. When the conservative govt. allowed hunting 12 months a year for people with a metis card, everyone and their dog started lining up for metis applications. This wasn't because of a sudden interest in the metis heritage or to sudddenly display a proud feeling of the metis way, it was because of the hunting rights.
What you fellas are proposing is the same thing. All of a sudden people will want to get a hunting license so they can pack heat.
What you fellas are proposing is the same thing. All of a sudden people will want to get a hunting license so they can pack heat.
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- Hillbilly shack in the boonies
Those folks that think it will happen, got a sportsview scope , special order , multi coated lens, guaranteed moa , $600 shipped , and its shock resistant
