Has anyone been denied a restricted firearm transfer because NOT a gunclub member??

Recently I've been hearing about CFO's refusing RPAL renewals if the holder doesn't own any restricteds.

One case the CFO arbitrarily downgraded a RPAL to a PAL. The person didn't notice until he went to buy a revolver and realized his licence just had non restricteds.

When the people affected called to see WTF was going on, they were told they had no restricteds registered to them, so they no longer need an RPAL.

My buddy I hunt with has not resticted's and they frowned on it, wanted him to downgrade. He just told them he might be wanting it for armored car work if he could find a job in that field. Worked ok. I can't see it fair to downgrade it without consent.
 
Im waiting on my first restricted transfer to go through....It was sent to the CFO for approval on tuesday, and as of friday evening no word yet.... kinda wondering about this myself as im not a club member yet.
 
I have trouble understanding why people want a restricted and not belong to a club. You can't shoot it anywhere else.

My first few restricted purchases for the year require me to fax a copy of my membership card in. After that, no problem.

I do have a restricted transfer that I have to complete the info for. Haven't renewed my membership yet as I have no time to use it. Be interesting to see how it goes...........
 
I completed a transfer today in BC and they asked what gun club I belong to but didn't ask for any proof of membership.....

Expect that to be the reason they slow down your transfer - call them and provide proof. They're playing all sorts of brainless games now, like not telling you what they want, until it's delayed the paperwork on your transfer by 2 or 3 weeks, then waiting for you to call to ask you for it.
 
I have trouble understanding why people want a restricted and not belong to a club. You can't shoot it anywhere else.

My first few restricted purchases for the year require me to fax a copy of my membership card in. After that, no problem.

I do have a restricted transfer that I have to complete the info for. Haven't renewed my membership yet as I have no time to use it. Be interesting to see how it goes...........


I just figured there was no point paying 100$ to join a pistol club when I didnt own a pistol. Im already a member at my local shooting range where I shoot rifles and trap, but its a whole seperate club for pistols.

Im in the process of joining it, but I have to go through a probation period first, and I've already made a trade arrangement for my first pistol with another CGN'er.

I bet theyre gonna try and deny me the transfer, from what I hear about the ontario CFO
 
I just figured there was no point paying 100$ to join a pistol club when I didnt own a pistol. Im already a member at my local shooting range where I shoot rifles and trap, but its a whole seperate club for pistols.

Im in the process of joining it, but I have to go through a probation period first, and I've already made a trade arrangement for my first pistol with another CGN'er.

I bet theyre gonna try and deny me the transfer, from what I hear about the ontario CFO

$100 to join a club?

DAMN, I'd LOVE to only have to pay $100.

The clubs closest to me average $600.

See if the club will give you a letter saying that you have applied. I've heard some instances where telling the CFO what club you are planning to join was good enough for them to approve the transfer.
 
False.

However, you must be a member of a club, or a collector, to purchase a new restricted firearm.


I pay $25 a year.

Yeah well It happened to me this year on renewal and another guy in this thread so it happens.....each provinces CFO is different. I told them I just had a kid and was going to take a year or 2 off. They said no way, you either shoot or collect, no other reason to own them. So I had to renew my membership.
 
I can't find words to describe how I feel about this situation. Is this the next tactic in the Liberal social engineering fiasco to discourage us from owning handguns? If you have passed the RPAL exam what business is it of the government or CFO or anyone else whether you own a restricted class firearm or not? I have never heard of any stipulation stating that you must own one to maintain status. I've always understood that to be the case with prohibs, but not restricted class. Is it true that once you declare collector status you open yourself up to inspection of gun storage without warrant or cause?
 
I have trouble understanding why people want a restricted and not belong to a club. You can't shoot it anywhere else.

My first few restricted purchases for the year require me to fax a copy of my membership card in. After that, no problem.

I do have a restricted transfer that I have to complete the info for. Haven't renewed my membership yet as I have no time to use it. Be interesting to see how it goes...........

Club membership for the year ~400.
Times gone shooting at the range for the year ~5
Drop in fee for non members at above club ~20
You still have a problem understanding ?
 
Keep us up to date on how it turns out.

Im waiting on my first restricted transfer to go through....It was sent to the CFO for approval on tuesday, and as of friday evening no word yet.... kinda wondering about this myself as im not a club member yet.


Is this test available on the RCMP Firearms web site? I was told you have to indicate what gun's you intend to collect and must know everything about them and that the CFO will call you to speak about it.

this is the purpose of having the "collectors status". The CFO will send you a test in order to prove your knowledge of firearms... history, types of cartridges etc.., its really not that difficult. Once completed, you'll be given collectors status which will be linked to your RPAL number. This will exempt you from needing a club membership and provide you with a purpose for ownership. Your local Police Firearms Officer can provide this test for you or you can contact the CFO directly. Its handy to have.


In my area the local gun club costs 250.00 / yr + a one time exam fee of 200.00.

I don't have a lot of money so initially I would have to purchase the handgun first and join the club a year later. I would probably start with a 22 since ammo is cheap. But requiring someone to belong to a club fisrt is like saying because I am poor I can't purchase one.

I have trouble understanding why people want a restricted and not belong to a club. You can't shoot it anywhere else.

My first few restricted purchases for the year require me to fax a copy of my membership card in. After that, no problem.

I do have a restricted transfer that I have to complete the info for. Haven't renewed my membership yet as I have no time to use it. Be interesting to see how it goes...........
 
Club membership for the year ~400.
Times gone shooting at the range for the year ~5
Drop in fee for non members at above club ~20
You still have a problem understanding ?

Exactly. I resent having to pay an arbitrary 'lease' on tools I own. My closest range costs me about $450/year. There are cheaper ones further away, and 'associate memberships' available for about $100 (for which you get almost nothing), so at minimum it would cost $100/year for the privilege of owning my property. Do I target shoot? Yes, but irregularily. But maybe that's not enough for the CFO to allow me the privilege...

The collector option would be ok if they didn't put that pesky inspection clause in there. Sorry, but I don't need someone rummaging through my house looking for violations of vaguely written laws on any kind of regular basis, with or without my permission.
 
False.

However, you must be a member of a club, or a collector, to purchase a new restricted firearm.


I pay $25 a year.

Can anyone simply join this club, pay the $25/year membership, never shoot there and technically have the status of belonging to a "Club" to make the CFO happy?....just asking.
 
Can anyone simply join this club, pay the $25/year membership, never shoot there and technically have the status of belonging to a "Club" to make the CFO happy?....just asking.

Not if you're in the GTA and the club is in Alberta, or BC or ...........
 
I can't find words to describe how I feel about this situation. Is this the next tactic in the Liberal social engineering fiasco to discourage us from owning handguns? If you have passed the RPAL exam what business is it of the government or CFO or anyone else whether you own a restricted class firearm or not? I have never heard of any stipulation stating that you must own one to maintain status. I've always understood that to be the case with prohibs, but not restricted class. Is it true that once you declare collector status you open yourself up to inspection of gun storage without warrant or cause?

As I've said before, it's like denying someone a drivers licence renewal because they have no vehicls registered to them.
 
$100 to join a club?

DAMN, I'd LOVE to only have to pay $100.

The clubs closest to me average $600.

See if the club will give you a letter saying that you have applied. I've heard some instances where telling the CFO what club you are planning to join was good enough for them to approve the transfer.

$150 for one of the gun range in BC.

Club membership for the year ~400.
Times gone shooting at the range for the year ~5
Drop in fee for non members at above club ~20
You still have a problem understanding ?

That seems to be Ontario's problem....
Most other province have cheap memberships..
 
Obviously there are major discrepancies from CFO to CFO. In ON the club has to apply for the ATT. You have to own a pistol to get an ATT (unless someone at the same address owns the firearm). It is contradictory to require club membership before RPAL issue, but if that is what is happening it is another example of why the CFO authority has to be better regulated. As it is they are allowed to attach "reasonable" conditions, which often don't seeem reasonable to us. I have heard that people are asked what club they are going to join before transfer. I don't really agree with this, as they should be able to go to a commercial range that is not a club, but I don't object to this as much as refusal to issue the RPAL. The trouble with trying to standardize CFO operation is we have to be careful we don't end up with the most restrictive "reasonable conditions".
 
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