Has the AR market in Canada totally collapsed or what?

^I get it that the short ARs are a hot comodity in the looks cool department. Myself and myself only, restricted or not, I would prefer the full length or even a longer barrel to get the most juice out of every single pull of the trigger. Adding to this my .223 ammo would be something in the 75-77 grain for long range performance & wind bucking ablity.
 
^I get it that the short ARs are a hot comodity in the looks cool department. Myself and myself only, restricted or not, I would prefer the full length or even a longer barrel to get the most juice out of every single pull of the trigger. Adding to this my .223 ammo would be something in the 75-77 grain for long range performance & wind bucking ablity.

It's not just the "looks cool department", it's the fact that since it's restricted regardless you might as well get the shortest barrel possible.
 
It's not just the "looks cool department", it's the fact that since it's restricted regardless you might as well get the shortest barrel possible.

Exactly - for the type of shooting I do with my AR quick handling trumps velocity. My shooting is typically more rapid stuff at <50 yards with this type of rifle. Different strokes though.

Ben
 
Or if it's just going to sit there you're better off selling it and just take the hit. Firearms as an investment is generally a losing proposition. I don't look at it as taking a loss; I look at it as having rented it.

It won't sit and if I'm going to take a hit on it I'm going to run 1000+ rounds down the pipe first.
I'm fine keeping it though, I love AR's and this one turned out nice. My piston AR's and my Swiss classic green will appreciate the reduced rounds they eat satisfying my shooting needs each range day.

Supply is higher than demand it seems so I guess as a seller you have to be willing to take a bigger hit than you'd like if you want to sell.
I know my rifle is worth more than I'm asking if you add up retail prices of the components and parting it out would probably fetch a higher price in the end but I'm not hurting for cash and don't need to sell it. Someone will come along that wants it and I'll enjoy it in the meantime.
 
It won't sit and if I'm going to take a hit on it I'm going to run 1000+ rounds down the pipe first.
I'm fine keeping it though, I love AR's and this one turned out nice. My piston AR's and my Swiss classic green will appreciate the reduced rounds they eat satisfying my shooting needs each range day.

Supply is higher than demand it seems so I guess as a seller you have to be willing to take a bigger hit than you'd like if you want to sell.
I know my rifle is worth more than I'm asking if you add up retail prices of the components and parting it out would probably fetch a higher price in the end but I'm not hurting for cash and don't need to sell it. Someone will come along that wants it and I'll enjoy it in the meantime.

Sure, why not. Like I said, I look at these as "rent-to-own". So what's happening with the Swiss Arms? Still in limbo? You might have more luck stripping it and selling the components off separately (more of a PITA, though).
 
Sure, why not. Like I said, I look at these as "rent-to-own". So what's happening with the Swiss Arms? Still in limbo? You might have more luck stripping it and selling the components off separately (more of a PITA, though).

Still waiting to hear about the Swiss. Gonna be pissed if I have to give it up. Only part they get will be the upper with the serial number though.
 
I'd say the black rifle market is as strong as ever and growing, based on what I've seen.

Agree'd. I think most people are opting for the $1000 econo option though and it's hurting used sales. Nothing wrong with the $1000 rifles available these days though. Quality is rising while costs are coming down in that price range. Still quite a few posts about problems with the cheaper ones though. You still get what you pay for but the gap is getting smaller.
 
This thread is full of win, Battle Proven !!!! REAL AR !!! HAHAHAH I think your AR been neutered. Pinned Mags, Semi Auto Only, YEAH that's battle proven for sure, maybe for the 75th Arm Chair Commandos.
 
Anything can be battle proven if it's seen battle. Those rocks that the Palestinian use against Israelis are battle proven too.

Passing a armed forces arms purchase commission test is something else entirely. Some rifles have, some haven't, that's what I rely on.
 
Anything can be battle proven if it's seen battle. Those rocks that the Palestinian use against Israelis are battle proven too.

Passing a armed forces arms purchase commission test is something else entirely. Some rifles have, some haven't, that's what I rely on.

I suppose that all the 10/22s that were used on those rock throwing Palestinians pass that bar, even after the Israeli courts brought their use to an end.....
 
I have a non-restricted/restricted PAL and while I like the idea of having an AR for service rifle matches and introducing new shooters to the sport, I've been blessed with access to an affordable range that for many Canadians might be hours away. It's not my particular interest to get into accessorizing these rifles or tweaking them for accuracy, but that's simply a personal preference and not a slight to those who do. I'll shoot such guns for as long as I can have them.

But it's also frustrating not to be able to take ARs and other restricted firearms to the cottage, into the bush for for hunting, hiking or plinking, into a wilderness bug out bag or as a truck gun for drives through the country. I'm hoping that the growing number of similar non-restricted firearms in Canadian hands will eventually make it that much harder and less likely for the government to ban them in the future, and with luck perhaps one day pull the AR off of the restricted list as its presence there becomes increasingly pointless. In any event, I'm looking forward to hiking into the bush with a T97 for coyotes and a bit of backwoods target shooting, at least while we still can.

So yes, I think that the current growth in non-restricted alternatives might drop AR sales for the short term, at least until almost everyone who wants a detachable AR magazine fed .223 semi-automatic as part of their shooting collection gets one.
 
I have a non-restricted/restricted PAL and while I like the idea of having an AR for service rifle matches and introducing new shooters to the sport, I've been blessed with access to an affordable range that for many Canadians might be hours away. It's not my particular interest to get into accessorizing these rifles or tweaking them for accuracy, but that's simply a personal preference and not a slight to those who do. I'll shoot such guns for as long as I can have them.

But it's also frustrating not to be able to take ARs and other restricted firearms to the cottage, into the bush for for hunting, hiking or plinking, into a wilderness bug out bag or as a truck gun for drives through the country. I'm hoping that the growing number of similar non-restricted firearms in Canadian hands will eventually make it that much harder and less likely for the government to ban them in the future, and with luck perhaps one day pull the AR off of the restricted list as its presence there becomes increasingly pointless. In any event, I'm looking forward to hiking into the bush with a T97 for coyotes and a bit of backwoods target shooting, at least while we still can.

So yes, I think that the current growth in non-restricted alternatives might drop AR sales for the short term, at least until almost everyone who wants a detachable AR magazine fed .223 semi-automatic as part of their shooting collection gets one.


The more of us that own an AR the easier it will be to make them non restricted. Strength in numbers. Hard to fight for what 100 people want but much easier for 100000.
 
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